Vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with finding the vector potential, specifically with integrating r'. The solution suggests that the integral is incorrect and should include an additional 1/r' factor. However, the correct integral is messy and it is not clear what the upper bound should be. The conversation also mentions different gauges and equations for finding A, but ultimately concludes that for this particular problem, the transverse component of J is zero, resulting in A = 0 in the Coulomb gauge.
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Homework Statement
This is from Griffith , Introduction to Electrodynamics 4th Edition question 10.7

A time-dependent point charge q(t) at the origin, ##\rho(r, t) = q(t)\delta^3(r)##, is fed by a current ##J(r, t) = −\frac{1}{4π} \frac{\dot q}{r^2}) \hat r##
(a) Check that charge is conserved, by confirming that the continuity equation is obeyed.
(b) Find the scalar and vector potentials in the Coulomb gauge. If you get stuck, try working on (c) first.
(c) Find the fields, and check that they satisfy all of Maxwell’s equations.
Relevant Equations
$$A = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int \frac{ J}{|r-r'|}d^3r'$$
$$J = −\frac{1}{4π} \frac{\dot q}{r^2}) \hat r$$
I am having problem with part (b) finding the vector potential. More specifically when writing out the volume integral,
$$A = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi r}\frac{dq}{dt}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{0}^{?}\frac{1}{4\pi r'^2} r'^2sin\theta dr'd\theta d\phi$$
How do I integrate ##r'##?

The solution says because ##B## can only have ##r## component and only depend on ##r## and ##t## due to symmetry, and ##\nabla \cdot B = 0##, ##B = \nabla \times A = 0## also by using coulomb gauge we set ## \nabla\cdot A = 0##, ##A=0## or it could be any constant.
The argument makes sense to me, but I am not sure what is wrong with the integral, and how does it end up with 0.
 
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When you setup the integral,
$$
\mathbf{A }(\mathbf{r})= \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int \frac{ \mathbf{ J}(\mathbf{r'})}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|}d^3r'
$$
you left out the factor ##\frac{1}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|}## in the integrand. The integral is messy.
 
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jasonRF said:
When you setup the integral,
$$
\mathbf{A }(\mathbf{r})= \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int \frac{ \mathbf{ J}(\mathbf{r'})}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|}d^3r'
$$
you left out the factor ##\frac{1}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|}## in the integrand. The integral is messy.
Yes that's right. I'd fix it but I can't seem to edit it anymore. The correct integral should have an extra ##\frac{1}{r'}## factor in it, but I am still not sure what is the upper bound of integral so that it come out to be a constant.
 
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RedDeer44 said:
Homework Equations: $$A = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int \frac{ J}{|r-r'|}d^3r'$$
This equation is not valid in general when you have time-dependent fields and currents. In the Lorentz gauge (also called Lorenz gauge) there is a similar formula for A except the integrand is evaluated at "retarded times". But, you want A in the Coulomb gauge. In this gauge, it can be shown that $$\mathbf{A}(\mathbf r) = \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\int \frac{\mathbf{J_t}(\mathbf{r}', t_r)}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|}d^3r'$$where again you use retarded times ##t_r##, but the integrand involves only the so-called "transverse component" ##\mathbf{J_t}## of ##\mathbf{J}##. If you want to read more about this, see section 5.2 here. For your problem ##\mathbf{J_t}=0##, which is consistent with ##\mathbf{A} = 0## in the Coulomb gauge for this particular problem.
 
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Related to Vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions

1. What is the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions?

The vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions is a mathematical concept in electromagnetism that describes the magnetic field generated by a current that flows from all directions towards a single point. It is represented by the symbol A and is measured in units of ampere-meter (A-m).

2. How is the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions calculated?

The vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions is calculated using the Biot-Savart law, which states that the magnetic field at a point is directly proportional to the current flowing through a wire and inversely proportional to the distance from the wire. The vector potential is then given by the integral of the magnetic field over the entire current-carrying wire.

3. What are the applications of the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions?

The vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions has various applications in electromagnetism, including in the analysis of magnetic fields in complex systems such as antennas, motors, and transformers. It is also used in the study of electromagnetic waves and in the development of electromagnetic devices.

4. How does the direction of the vector potential relate to the direction of the current flow?

The direction of the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions is perpendicular to both the direction of the current flow and the direction of the magnetic field. This is known as the right-hand rule, where the thumb points in the direction of the current flow and the fingers curl in the direction of the magnetic field.

5. How does the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions differ from the magnetic field?

While the vector potential of current flowing to a point from all directions and the magnetic field are closely related, they are not the same. The vector potential is a mathematical construct that is used to describe the magnetic field, while the magnetic field is a physical quantity that can be directly measured. Additionally, the vector potential is a vector quantity while the magnetic field is a vector field, meaning it has a magnitude and direction at every point in space.

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