Solve the given problem involving parametric equations

In summary: You can find the dot product if you take the product of the first terms and then the product of the second terms and add them (since the unit vector is the same). So you get ##(q-p)(s-r)+\left(\frac{1}{q}-\frac{1}{p}\right)\left(\frac{1}{s}-\frac{1}{r}\right)=0##. If you multiply this out, you get ##pqsr=-1##. So, if the chords are perpendicular, then ##pqsr=-1##. If ##pqsr=-1##, then the chords are perpendicular.
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Homework Statement
##P,Q,R## and ##S## are four points on the hyperbola ##x=ct, y=\dfrac{c}{t}## with parameters ##p,q,r## and ##s## respectively. Prove that, if the chord ##PQ## is perpendicular to the chord ##RS##, then ##pqrs=-1##.
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My take;

##y=\dfrac{c^2}{x}##

##y+x\dfrac{dy}{dx}=0##

##\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{-y}{x}##

##y-\dfrac{c}{t}=-\dfrac{y}{x}(x-ct)##

##yt-c=-\dfrac{yt}{x}(x-ct)##

##xyt-cx=-yt(x-ct)##

##c^2t-cx=-cx+yct^2##

##c^2t-cx=-cx+ytct##

##c^2t-cx=-cx+c^2t##

##⇒-cx=-cx##

##⇒cx=cx##

Therefore it follows that,

##\dfrac{c}{c}=\dfrac{x}{x}##

##x=c##

##y## will be given by,

##y=\dfrac{c^2}{c}=c##

point P will have co-ordinates ##(x,y)=(c,c)## and point Q will have co-ordinates ##(x,y)=(-c,-c)## where gradient is given by;

##m=\dfrac{c--c}{c--c}=\dfrac{2c}{2c}=1##

It follows that the perpendicular to the chord RS will have gradient =-1.

I do not have the solution to this question...your input is highly appreciated...
 
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Non-calculus solution:

The 4 points are: ##P(cp, \frac cp), Q(cq, \frac cq), R(cr, \frac cr)## and ##S(cs, \frac cs)##.

Start by finding the gradient of ##PQ##: ##m_{PQ} = \frac { \Delta y}{\Delta x}## where, for example, ## \Delta x= cq - cp = c(q-p)##.

Take it from there !
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Non-calculus solution:

The 4 points are: ##P(cp, \frac cp), Q(cq, \frac cq), R(cr, \frac cr)## and ##S(cs, \frac cs)##.

Start by finding the gradient of ##PQ##: ##m_{PQ} = \frac { \Delta y}{\Delta x}## where, for example, ## \Delta x= cq - cp = c(q-p)##.

Take it from there !
Ok i am getting the following;

Gradient of chord ##PQ=\left[\dfrac{-1}{qp}\right]## now if ##PQ## is perpendicular to chord ##RS## then the product of their gradients =##-1##, therefore,Gradient of chord ##RS=\left[\dfrac{-1}{sr}\right]=-1, ⇒sr=1##

...therefore ##pqrs=-1##.
 
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chwala said:
Gradient of chord ##RS=\left[\dfrac{-1}{sr}\right]=-1, ⇒sr=1##

...therefore ##pqrs=-1##.
Correct final conclusion but the method is wrong.

##RS=\left[\dfrac{-1}{sr}\right]=-1, ⇒sr=1## doesn't work. For example the gradient of SR could be 3 and the gradient of PQ could be ##-\frac 13##.

Remember, you are being asked to prove "that, if the chord PQ is perpendicular to the chord RS, then pqrs= -1".
 
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I do not seem to get it...

Ok, let ##m_1## and ##m_2## be the gradients of ##PQ## and ##RS## respectively;

##m_1=\left[\dfrac{-1}{qp}\right]##

##m_2=\left[\dfrac{-1}{sr}\right]##

we know that ##m_1×m_2=-1## therefore,

##\dfrac{-1}{qp}×\dfrac{-1}{sr}=-1##

##\dfrac{1}{qp}×\dfrac{1}{sr}=-1##

##\dfrac{1}{pqsr}=-1##

on cross-multiplying we end up with;

##pqsr=-1##.
 
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The vector from P to Q is ##(q-p)c\hat{i}+\left(\frac{1}{q}-\frac{1}{p}\right)c\hat{j}##. The vector from R to S is ##(s-r)c\hat{i}+\left(\frac{1}{s}-\frac{1}{r}\right)c\hat{j}##. For these chords to be perpendicular, the dot product of these two vectors must be zero.
 
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