Pendulum in non inertial frame

In summary, the conversation discusses a pendulum on a rotating platform and the angle between the pendulum and vertical when it is in equilibrium. It also mentions the angular velocity and the distance of the pendulum from the axis. The solution involves using equations for a conic pendulum and solving for the distance using given values. The final answer is 0.036m.
  • #1
Luke1121
14
0

Homework Statement


A pendulum is placed on a rotating platform which rotates with angular velocity ω around an axis, at equilibrium the angle between vertical and pendulum is θ
θ= 20 degrees
ω= 10 1/s
how far is the pendulum placed from the axis


Homework Equations


[itex]a_c=\frac{v^2}{R}=\omega^2R[/itex]



The Attempt at a Solution


the frame is non inertial so effective g is [itex]\sqrt{g^2 + \omega^2R}[/itex]

I'm not really sure where to go from here, i thought about doing
[itex] \omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}}=\sqrt{\frac{g^2 + \omega^2R}{l}}[/itex] and solving for R however [itex]l[/itex] isn't given so I'm not really sure where to go next, any ideas?

Thanks, Luke
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
You are wrong considering a mathematical pendulum instead of conic one.

So you may write down (T is a funicular force):
$$
m a_c = m ω^2 R = T sinθ
$$
$$
0 = T cosθ - m g
$$
 
  • #3
GregoryS said:
You are wrong considering a mathematical pendulum instead of conic one.

So you may write down (T is a funicular force):
$$
m a_c = m ω^2 R = T sinθ
$$
$$
0 = T cosθ - m g
$$
Ah ok, so:

[itex]Tcos\theta=mg (1)
Tsin\theta=m\omega^2R (2) [/itex]


doing (2)/(1) gives

[itex]R=\frac{gtan\theta}{\omega^2}[/itex]

plugging in the numbers gives 0.036m, is this correct?
 

Related to Pendulum in non inertial frame

What is a pendulum in a non-inertial frame?

A pendulum in a non-inertial frame refers to a pendulum system that is observed from a reference frame that is accelerating or rotating. This causes the pendulum to experience fictitious forces, which can affect its motion.

How does a pendulum behave in a non-inertial frame?

In a non-inertial frame, a pendulum will experience a Coriolis force and a centrifugal force, in addition to the usual gravitational force. These forces can cause the pendulum to deviate from its expected motion in an inertial frame.

What is the Coriolis force on a pendulum in a non-inertial frame?

The Coriolis force on a pendulum in a non-inertial frame is a result of the pendulum's motion being observed from a rotating frame. This force acts perpendicular to the pendulum's velocity and causes it to deflect to the right in the Northern Hemisphere and to the left in the Southern Hemisphere.

How does the centrifugal force affect a pendulum in a non-inertial frame?

The centrifugal force on a pendulum in a non-inertial frame is a result of the frame's acceleration. It acts outward from the axis of rotation and can cause the pendulum to appear longer or shorter depending on its position in the frame.

How can the behavior of a pendulum in a non-inertial frame be calculated?

The behavior of a pendulum in a non-inertial frame can be calculated using the equations of motion and taking into account the Coriolis and centrifugal forces. The pendulum's motion can be described using polar coordinates and solving the equations of motion for these coordinates.

Similar threads

  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
9
Views
797
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
20
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
19
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
969
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
16
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
1K
Back
Top