Loss cone opening angle

In summary, the conversation discusses calculating the opening angle of the loss cone at a given altitude and magnetic latitude using various equations. There is confusion about the formula used and the meaning of the variables. It is determined that the distance from the center of the Earth, not the altitude, should be used in the equations. The equatorial plane is also mentioned and it is clarified that the value of L affects the loss cone angle. The conversation ends with a reference to a book discussing the loss cone starting at an angle of approximately 7 degrees for a specific L value and altitude.
  • #1
Imagin_e
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Homework Statement


Hi!
I need to find the opening angle of the loss cone at a given altitude, when the magnetic latitude is 65 deg.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


First, I used the following equation to calculate the magnetic field at a given altitude:
B=B0/[(r/RE))*sqrt(1+3sin^2(70deg)] ; where r= 2000 km (given altitude) , B0= 3.11*10^-5 nT for Earth and RE= 6378 km (Earth's radius).
Afterwards, I use: sin^2(alfa)=B0/B and the angle I get is too big. Please, help me with this one :)
 
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  • #2
I'm not familiar with the formula that you are using, but are you sure that r represents the altitude (i.e., distance above the surface of the earth)? What would the formula give for zero altitude?
 
  • #3
That's exactly the problem, it should theoretically be 7 degrees, but I get something completely wrong. I don't know if this equation is valid or not
 
  • #4
The formula B=B0/[(r/RE))*sqrt(1+3sin^2(70deg)] doesn't make sense if r represents altitude. On the surface of the earth, the altitude would be zero. But if you put r = 0 into your formula, what would you get?

So, if r is not the altitude, what do you think r actually represents? You must have gotten the formula from somewhere. Did your source of information define the symbols?

Your problem states that the latitude is 65 degrees. In your formula, you used 70 degrees. Is there a reason these are different?
 
  • #6
I personally think that r should be the altitude plus the radius of Earth
 
  • #7
I need to find the maximum field strength at this altitude and at 65 deg. I know what to do after that
 
  • #8
I found this site helpful: https://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures1/node22.html

As you noted in post #6, r is the distance from the center of the earth, not the altitude.

Equation (123) in the link when written in your notation is B=B0(RE/r)3 sqrt[1+3sin2(θ)]. Note that the distances are cubed and the square root factor is not in the denominator.

I spent quite a while working with the formulas on this page, but was not able to generate an answer of 7o for the loss-cone angle. It might be helpful if you could state the question word for word as given to you.

[EDIT: If I'm understanding the equations, I get a loss-cone angle of about 7o for latitude 65o if the altitude is about 20,000 km rather than 2,000 km.]
 
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  • #9
TSny said:
I found this site helpful: https://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures1/node22.html

As you noted in post #6, r is the distance from the center of the earth, not the altitude.

Equation (123) in the link when written in your notation is B=B0(RE/r)3 sqrt[1+3sin2(θ)]. Note that the distances are cubed and the square root factor is not in the denominator.

I spent quite a while working with the formulas on this page, but was not able to generate an answer of 7o for the loss-cone angle. It might be helpful if you could state the question word for word as given to you.

[EDIT: If I'm understanding the equations, I get a loss-cone angle of about 7o for latitude 65o if the altitude is about 20,000 km rather than 2,000 km.]
So, it should be the radius of the Earth divided with the altitude that I need to use? How will it then be in the equatorial plane, since r would be equal to RE.
The thing with the 7 degrees might be wrong. The book says:

For example, at L = 4 if all particles whose mirror points are below an altitude of about 1,000 km (the exact altitude is not critical) are lost via collisions, then the distribution function of these particles at the magnetic equator (X = 0) has a loss cone starting at an approximate pitch angle of a\c = 7°

But that will depend on the L-value I believe. L is the surface of rotation of a field line about the magnetic dipole axis and you can calculate different L's , but I'm not doing it here.
 
  • #10
By the way, when it comes to the equatorial plane, I only used
sin^2 (alfa)=(cos^6(lambda))/sqrt(1+3*sin^2(lambda)) , where lambda is 65 degrees. For the other height (I tried 1700 km), I used the equation you posed and got a value of 22 degrees. I might be correct, I have no idea.
 
  • #11
Imagin_e said:
So, it should be the radius of the Earth divided with the altitude that I need to use? How will it then be in the equatorial plane, since r would be equal to RE.
r is the distance from the center of the Earth to the point of interest. If h is the altitude of the point, then r = RE + h.

The equatorial plane just refers to all points where the latitude angle is zero. r does not need to equal RE on the equatorial plane.

The parameter L for a particular magnetic field line is just req/RE, where req is the distance from the center of the Earth to the point where the field line crosses the equatorial plane.
The thing with the 7 degrees might be wrong. The book says:

For example, at L = 4 if all particles whose mirror points are below an altitude of about 1,000 km (the exact altitude is not critical) are lost via collisions, then the distribution function of these particles at the magnetic equator (X = 0) has a loss cone starting at an approximate pitch angle of a\c = 7°
Using the equations in the link in post #8, you can verify the above. That is, for a magnetic field line corresponding to L = 4 and for mirror points at altitude of 1000 km, the loss cone angle on the equatorial plane is about 7o.

But that will depend on the L-value I believe. L is the surface of rotation of a field line about the magnetic dipole axis and you can calculate different L's , but I'm not doing it here.
Yes, it depends on L. L can be calculated if you know r and θ for some point on the magnetic field line that you are working with. From equation (122) in the link you can use r and θ to determine req. Then, L = req/RE.
 

Related to Loss cone opening angle

What is the definition of "Loss cone opening angle"?

The loss cone opening angle is a measure of the size of the region in velocity space where particles are lost due to collisions or other interactions in a plasma.

How is the loss cone opening angle calculated?

The loss cone opening angle is calculated by taking the inverse tangent of the ratio of the thermal speed of the particles to the speed of the particles along the magnetic field lines.

What factors affect the loss cone opening angle?

The loss cone opening angle is affected by factors such as the strength of the magnetic field, the density and temperature of the plasma, and the type of particles present.

Why is the loss cone opening angle important in plasma physics?

The loss cone opening angle is important in plasma physics because it helps us understand how particles behave in a plasma and how they are lost due to collisions or other interactions. This information is crucial for studying and predicting plasma phenomena in various applications.

Can the loss cone opening angle be controlled or manipulated?

Yes, the loss cone opening angle can be controlled and manipulated by changing the parameters of the plasma, such as the magnetic field strength or the density and temperature. This can be done in experiments to study the behavior of particles in different plasma conditions.

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