Is the set of irrationals a complete metric space?

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In summary, Alexandrov's theorem says that if X is a Polish space then so is any Gδ subset of X. This means that the irrationals form a G-delta set of the reals, and are a complete metric space under the usual metric.
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I came across Alexandrov's theorem which says that if X is a Polish space then so is any Gδ subset of X. The set of irrationals appears to be a ground for suspicion : irrationals form a G-delta set of the reals & yet are not a complete metric space ( all under the usual metric).
There is, of course, a metric under which the irrationals are complete.Could someone clarify this? Thanks.
 
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From wiki:

"a Polish space is a separable completely metrizable topological space"

A completely metrizable space isn't the same as complete metric space. It means that there exists some metric on the space which induces the topology which is complete, so it seems that what you have said is totally correct.
 
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It seems like the thing to show is that the metric ρ(x,y)=d(x,y)+Ʃn=12-nψn , with: ψn(x,y)=|fi(x)-fi(y)(y)|/[1+|fi(x)-fi(y)|]

And fi(x) := 1/d(x,M-Ui) , where the irrationals are an intersection of the Ui

Generates the same topology as the standard one in the irrationals.

A tour-de-force ( or, like some say it, a tour-de-france ) of point-set topology.
 
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Just in case, the metric on the irrationals is described in Hocking and Young's Topology, in page 83-or-so. The book is a trip back in time where point-set topology was a big game. I find a lot of it interesting, but nowadays much of it seems like mor eof a curiosity; used in some areas (e.g., functional analysis, and assumed --and often swept under the rug-- in algebraic topology).
 
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Ah, ok. Was really scratching my head with that metric you described. Is it part of a more general technique?
 
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Yes, the proof that there exists a complete metric for a Gδ subset is constructive, and the metric given is the one I posted. It can be generalized for
other Gδ subsets , of course.
 
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Hope this is not too far off-topic , neither for this post nor the forum, but there are other results in the book one does not hear much about, like that of producing an actual metric to show that an inverse limit of metric spaces is a metric space. I guess that's the difference between clasical and modern topology; in classical, one can see better what's under the hood, in terms of underlying details, tho maybe the problem with classica is that of not being able to see the forest, from somuch detail.
 

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What is Alexandrov's theorem?

Alexandrov's theorem, also known as the Alexandrov-Fenchel inequality, is a geometric theorem that relates the volume and surface area of a convex body in n-dimensional Euclidean space. It states that the volume of a convex body is less than or equal to the volume of its polar body, with equality only when the convex body is a ball.

Who discovered Alexandrov's theorem?

Alexandrov's theorem was first proved by the Russian mathematician, Aleksandr Danilovich Alexandrov, in 1941. However, the special case of the theorem for three-dimensional convex bodies was previously discovered by the German mathematician, Eduard Fenchel, in 1934.

What is the significance of Alexandrov's theorem?

Alexandrov's theorem has important implications in convex geometry and has been used in various branches of mathematics, such as optimization, differential geometry, and functional analysis. It also has applications in physics, including the study of black holes and gravitational collapse.

Can Alexandrov's theorem be extended to non-convex bodies?

No, Alexandrov's theorem only holds for convex bodies. This is because the proof relies on the convexity of the body and does not hold for non-convex bodies.

Are there any generalizations of Alexandrov's theorem?

Yes, there are several generalizations of Alexandrov's theorem, including the Busemann-Petty problem, which considers the relationship between the volumes of different sections of a convex body, and the Lutwak-Shephard problem, which extends the theorem to star-shaped bodies.

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