Exploring an Alternative Approach to Implicit Differentiation

In summary, the conversation discusses an alternative approach for solving a problem using implicit differentiation. The steps for finding the solution are outlined, and the conversation welcomes any additional insights. The book-solution is presented as a teaching demonstration of using parametric coordinates, but it is noted that sometimes eliminating the parametric coordinates can simplify the problem. An example is provided using the given values, where the derivative is found to be -1/3.
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Homework Statement
Find the equation of the normal to a curve given parametric equations;

##x=t^3, y=t^2##
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This is a text book example- i noted that we may have a different way of doing it hence my post.

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Alternative approach (using implicit differentiation);

##\dfrac{x}{y}=t##

on substituting on ##y=t^2##

we get,

##y^3-x^2=0##

##3y^2\dfrac{dy}{dx}-2x=0##

##\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{2x}{3y^2}##

at points ##(-8,4)##

##\dfrac{dy}{dx}=\dfrac{-1}{3}##

...the rest of the steps to required solution will follow...

...any insight is welcome.
 
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Or [tex]\begin{split}
\begin{pmatrix} x \\ y \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} &= \begin{pmatrix} t^3 \\ t^2 \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} + \lambda \begin{pmatrix} 3t^2 \\ 2t \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} \times \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1 \end{pmatrix} \\
&= \begin{pmatrix} t^3 \\ t^2 \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} + \lambda \begin{pmatrix} 2t \\ -3t^2 \\ 0 \end{pmatrix}
\end{split}
[/tex] and then [tex]
\lambda = \frac{x - t^3}{2t} = \frac{y - t^2}{-3t^2}\quad\Rightarrow\quad
y = t^2 - 3t^2\frac{x - t^3}{2t} = t^2 + \tfrac32 t^4 - \tfrac32 tx.[/tex]
 
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The book-solution is presumably given simply as a teaching-demonstration of how to solve this type of problem using parametric coordinates. But note, sometimes elimination of the parametric coordinates simplifies the problem. In this particular question(at the risk of stating the obvious):

##x=t^3, y= t^2 ⇒ y = x^{\frac 23}##

##\frac {dy}{dx} = \frac 23 x^{-\frac13}##

When ##x = -8, \frac {dy}{dx} = \frac 23 (-8)^{-\frac13}= -\frac 13##

etc.
 
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