What would Fermi say now about his 'paradox'?

In summary, the conversation discusses the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the likelihood of them being able to detect and communicate with each other. Fermi's famous question "where are they?" highlights the fact that if there were advanced civilizations in the galaxy, they should have colonized it by now. However, the ability to detect earth-like worlds with signs of life is currently available and expected to improve in the future, leading to the question of what conclusions can be drawn about the existence of other civilizations. The conversation also mentions the concept of "hiding" from alien threats, but it is argued that the vastness of the universe makes the chances of two civilizations being able to detect and communicate with each other very small. Furthermore, the best
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When Fermi was asked if he believed in the existence of E.T.s he replied "where are they?" and I think the idea was that if there were E.T.s they should have colonized the galaxy by now. What I am curious about is ... given the fact that the ability to detect earth-like worlds with signatures of life (e.g. presence of methane and oxygen in environment) is currently available and then in one to two hundred years it will no doubt be even better...What factual conclusions might be drawn about the existence of other E.T. civilizations? For example, given the relative ease of spotting life inhabiting worlds in the galaxy can it be a given that any advanced civilization (even one a hundred thousand light years away) would know that there is life on earth? One benefit of answering 'yes' would make the idea that we should have to 'hide' from a potential alien threat mute since they would no doubt have the ability to catalogue the billions of planets through out the galaxy.
 
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Rather than looking for chemicals specific to life as we know it, the best way of detecting life would be to look for planets whose atmospheric chemistry is out of equilibrium.

The universe is exceedingly big and light crawls across it painfully slowly when you put it into the context of traveling from one planet to another in timescales relevant to the evolution and growth of civilisation to the point of technological prowess then on to probable self annihilation. The probability of two civilisations evolving to the point where they could detect each other and communicate or even travel to hook up is therefore exceedingly small. Basically, by the time we get detected and ET has come to say hello we won't be here any more.
 

Related to What would Fermi say now about his 'paradox'?

1. What is Fermi's paradox?

Fermi's paradox, also known as the Fermi paradox, is the apparent contradiction between the high probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the lack of evidence for, or contact with, such civilizations.

2. What was Fermi's proposed solution to the paradox?

Fermi suggested that the reason we have not encountered any extraterrestrial civilizations is because they have not yet developed the technology to travel through space and communicate with other civilizations.

3. What would Fermi say about the paradox now?

It is impossible to say for certain what Fermi would say about the paradox now, as it has been over 70 years since he first proposed it. However, it is likely that he would still be intrigued by the question and would continue to explore possible solutions.

4. How has our understanding of the universe changed since Fermi's time?

Since Fermi's time, our understanding of the universe has greatly expanded. We have discovered thousands of exoplanets, and have a better understanding of the conditions necessary for life to exist. We have also made significant advancements in technology and space exploration.

5. Is the Fermi paradox still relevant today?

Yes, the Fermi paradox is still a relevant and actively discussed topic in the scientific community. Despite our increased knowledge and technology, we still have not found any concrete evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations, leading to ongoing speculation and debate about the potential solutions to the paradox.

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