What is the mystery behind the puffy planet HAT-P-1?

In summary, astronomers have found a strange new world that has them pondering again the essential properties of a planet. The new object, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one member of a pair of stars 450 light-years away in the constellation Lacerta. Although HAT-P-1's radius is about 1.38 times that of our own Jupiter, it has a mass that is only half that of Jupiter, making it much bigger and lower in density than planets are usually. This makes it much larger and lower in mass than predicted by the models limiting planet size to only slightly larger than Jupiter, raising questions about how it formed. The mathematical equations describing planetary structure do not fit, raising further questions about how H
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Astronomers have found a strange new world that has them pondering again the essential properties of a planet.

This new object, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one member of a pair of stars 450 light-years away in the constellation Lacerta.

Although HAT-P-1's radius is about 1.38 times that of our own Jupiter, it has a mass that is only half that of Jupiter.

This makes it much bigger and lower in density than planets are usually, raising questions about how it formed.

The mathematical equations describing planetary structure do not fit.

HAT-P-1 is the largest of the 200 or so planets that have been detected outside our Solar System.

Like many of these extrasolar bodies, it orbits close to its parent star, revolving around it in just once every 4.5 Earth days.

Scientists know of one other extrasolar planet, HD 209458b, which is also puffed up about 20% bigger than predicted by theory. HAT-P-1 is 24% larger than expected.

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/press/pr0624.html

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0609369

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~gbakos/
 
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Puffy planet poses pretty puzzle
Hmmmm...probably a pretty peculiar planet. :smile:

Its semimajor axis is 0.055 AU. This proximity to the G0 star will produce ~450,000 watts/m^2 (comparing it to a 1,367 solar constant value).

I think the models limiting planet size to only slightly larger than Jupiter were not intended to handle hot atmospheres, but this is just an assumption. There may have been no exoplanets when they were developed.
 
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Maybe the planet started off like Jupitor, but it had some chemical process that produced a substance that formed/bubbled/etc at the surface, or condensed out of atmosphere into particles that floated and attached to other particles and eventually formed a shell surrounding the planet?
The when the planet cools, the planet shrinks and the shell remains the size it was. Leaving a planet that is basically hollow (except it has a core) and the density being what it is because of this "hollowness"...
 
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That is imaginative and imagination is sure helpful.

The problem is it should never hove gotten that big in the first place. If you add lots of gas to Jupiter, it will increase the mass and, therefore, increase the gravity. This will cause the atmosphere to shrink, somewhat. This minimizes just how big a gas giant can become. They can be larger than Jupiter, but not 30% larger.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if this formulation of maximum size deals with cool and warm planets, not planets getting fried next to their star. A hot atmosphere will expand and I would not expect a 30% increase to cause a concern. I am not an astrophysicist by a long shot, however.
 

Related to What is the mystery behind the puffy planet HAT-P-1?

1. What is Planet HAT-P-1?

Planet HAT-P-1 is a gas giant exoplanet located approximately 450 light-years away from Earth in the constellation Lacerta. It was discovered in 2006 and has a mass about half that of Jupiter.

2. Why does Planet HAT-P-1 pose a puzzle?

Planet HAT-P-1 poses a puzzle because it has an extremely low density, making it one of the largest known planets with a density less than that of water. This defies current theories about planet formation and raises questions about its composition and evolution.

3. How was Planet HAT-P-1 discovered?

Planet HAT-P-1 was discovered using the "transit method" where scientists observe a star and look for small dips in its brightness caused by a planet passing in front of it. This method allows scientists to estimate the size and orbital period of the planet.

4. What makes Planet HAT-P-1 unique?

Planet HAT-P-1 is unique due to its extremely low density and large size. It is also one of the first planets to be discovered by the HATNet project, which uses a network of telescopes to search for exoplanets.

5. What further research is being done on Planet HAT-P-1?

Scientists are currently conducting further research on Planet HAT-P-1 to better understand its composition and formation. This includes studying its atmosphere and using models to simulate its evolution. New telescope technologies may also allow for more detailed observations of this intriguing exoplanet.

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