What is the Explanation for the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 Proof?

In summary: S since f\left(\xi + \frac{\delta}{2}\right) < \eta but \xi is an upper bound for S contradiction! so \eta - f(\xi) is not positive so still two choices less than or equal zero 3b) any x greater than ξ is not in S and so $f(x)\geq \eta$.By continuity ,f(ξ) is the limit of f(x) as x tends to ξ through values greater than ξ ,and so :$f(\xi)\geq\eta$
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If:

f is a real value function continuous over [a,b] ,a<b and f(a)<f(b)

,then prove that for all η,
f(a)<η<f(b) ,there exists an ξ ,such that : f(ξ)=η

Proof.

1)Let S be a set of all xε[a,b] such that :f(x)<η.

Since a belongs to S and b is an upper bound then S has a Supremum

2)Let ξ= SupS3) Will show that : a) $f(\xi)\geq\eta $ ,b) $ f(\xi)\leq\eta $ and hence : $f(\xi)=\eta$3a) By the definition of supremum, for every positive ε, there is a number x' of S with
$\xi-\epsilon\leq x'\leq\xi$ .
For this x', f(x')<η.
Since f is contiguous at ξ, $f(\xi)\leq\eta$ which is : 3a

3b) Any x greater than ξ is not in S and so $f(x)\geq \eta$.By continuity ,f(ξ) is the limit of f(x) as x tends to ξ through values greater than ξ ,and so :$f(\xi)\geq\eta$

I have no idea how he gets $f(\xi)\geq \eta $ in part 3b and $f(\xi)\leq\eta$ in part 3a
 
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Re: intermediate value theorem 2

solakis said:
If:

f is a real value function continuous over [a,b] ,a<b and f(a)<f(b)

,then prove that for all η,
f(a)<η<f(b) ,there exists an ξ ,such that : f(ξ)=η

Proof.

1)Let S be a set of all xε[a,b] such that :f(x)<η.

Since a belongs to S and b is an upper bound then S has a Supremum

2)Let ξ= SupS3) Will show that : a) $f(\xi)\geq\eta $ ,b) $ f(\xi)\leq\eta $ and hence : $f(\xi)=\eta$3a) By the definition of supremum, for every positive ε, there is a number x' of S with
$\xi-\epsilon\leq x'\leq\xi$ .
For this x', f(x')<η.
Since f is contiguous at ξ, $f(\xi)\leq\eta$ which is : 3a

3b) Any x greater than ξ is not in S and so $f(x)\geq \eta$.By continuity ,f(ξ) is the limit of f(x) as x tends to ξ through values greater than ξ ,and so :$f(\xi)\geq\eta$

I have no idea how he gets $f(\xi)\geq \eta $ in part 3b and $f(\xi)\leq\eta$ in part 3a

3a) [tex] f(\xi) \leq \eta [/tex]
Pick [tex] \epsilon = \eta - f(\xi) [/tex] as you should know
f is continuous at ξ that means for any [tex] \epsilon >0 [/tex] there exist [tex] \delta >0 [/tex]
such that whenever [tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta [/tex] we have [tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < \epsilon [/tex]
remember that epsilon>0 so if you choose a wrong epsilon the criteria for the continuity will be affected, back to our proof after we choose epsilon sub it
[tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < \eta - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] -\eta + f(\xi) < f(x) - f(\xi) < \eta - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] f(x) - f(\xi) < \eta - f(\xi) \Rightarrow f(x) < \eta [/tex] for

[tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta \Rightarrow \xi - \delta < x < \xi + \delta [/tex]

but [tex] \xi [/tex] is an upper bound for S, [tex] \xi < \xi +\frac{\delta}{2} [/tex]
and
[tex] \xi + \frac{\delta}{2} \in S [/tex] since
[tex] f\left(\xi + \frac{\delta}{2}\right) < \eta [/tex] but [tex] \xi [/tex] is an upper bound for S contradiction! so [tex] \eta - f(\xi) [/tex] is not positive so still two choices less than or equal zero

Lets see if [tex] f(\xi) > \eta [/tex]
f is continuous at [tex] \xi [/tex] , now pick [tex] \epsilon = f(\xi) - \eta [/tex]
there exist delta

[tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < f(\xi) - \eta [/tex] for [tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta [/tex]

[tex] -f(\xi) + \eta < f(x) - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] \eta < f(x) [/tex] for [tex] \xi - \delta < x < \xi + \delta [/tex]

[tex] \xi - \delta [/tex] is in S the definition of the upper bound which means [tex] f \left(\xi - \delta \right) [/tex] should be less than [tex] \eta [/tex] not larger contradiction so our epsilon is not positive

This idea from Wiki see this
 
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Re: intermediate value theorem 2

Amer said:
3a) [tex] f(\xi) \leq \eta [/tex]
Pick [tex] \epsilon = \eta - f(\xi) [/tex] as you should know
f is continuous at ξ that means for any [tex] \epsilon >0 [/tex] there exist [tex] \delta >0 [/tex]
such that whenever [tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta [/tex] we have [tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < \epsilon [/tex]
remember that epsilon>0 so if you choose a wrong epsilon the criteria for the continuity will be affected, back to our proof after we choose epsilon sub it
[tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < \eta - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] -\eta + f(\xi) < f(x) - f(\xi) < \eta - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] f(x) - f(\xi) < \eta - f(\xi) \Rightarrow f(x) < \eta [/tex] for

[tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta \Rightarrow \xi - \delta < x < \xi + \delta [/tex]

but [tex] \xi [/tex] is an upper bound for S, [tex] \xi < \xi +\frac{\delta}{2} [/tex]
and
[tex] \xi + \frac{\delta}{2} \in S [/tex] since
[tex] f\left(\xi + \frac{\delta}{2}\right) < \eta [/tex] but [tex] \xi [/tex] is an upper bound for S contradiction! so [tex] \eta - f(\xi) [/tex] is not positive so still two choices less than or equal zero

Lets see if [tex] f(\xi) > \eta [/tex]
f is continuous at [tex] \xi [/tex] , now pick [tex] \epsilon = f(\xi) - \eta [/tex]
there exist delta

[tex] \mid f(x) - f(\xi) \mid < f(\xi) - \eta [/tex] for [tex] \mid x - \xi \mid < \delta [/tex]

[tex] -f(\xi) + \eta < f(x) - f(\xi) [/tex]

[tex] \eta < f(x) [/tex] for [tex] \xi - \delta < x < \xi + \delta [/tex]

[tex] \xi - \delta [/tex] is in S the definition of the upper bound which means [tex] f \left(\xi - \delta \right) [/tex] should be less than [tex] \eta [/tex] not larger contradiction so our epsilon is not positive

This idea from Wiki see this

The proof you proposed is completely different from the proof i wrote in my OP.

Sorry but i am not asking for a proof of the IVT but an explanation of the OP's proof
 

Related to What is the Explanation for the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 Proof?

1. What is the Intermediate Value Theorem 2?

The Intermediate Value Theorem 2 is a mathematical theorem that states that if a function is continuous on a closed interval [a, b] and takes on two values, say c and d, at the endpoints a and b respectively, then for any value between c and d, there exists at least one point in the interval [a, b] where the function takes on that value.

2. How is Intermediate Value Theorem 2 different from the original Intermediate Value Theorem?

The original Intermediate Value Theorem only applies to one specific value between two given values, while Intermediate Value Theorem 2 applies to any value between two given values. This means that the original theorem is a special case of the Intermediate Value Theorem 2.

3. What are the conditions for the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 to hold?

The conditions for the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 to hold are: 1) the function must be continuous on the closed interval [a, b], 2) the function must take on two values (c and d) at the endpoints a and b respectively, and 3) the value between c and d must be within the range of the function on the interval [a, b].

4. How is the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 used in real life?

The Intermediate Value Theorem 2 has many practical applications in various fields such as engineering, economics, and physics. For example, it can be used to prove the existence of solutions to equations, to analyze the behavior of systems, and to find roots of functions.

5. Can the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 be proven?

Yes, the Intermediate Value Theorem 2 can be proven using the concept of bisection. This involves dividing the interval [a, b] into two equal parts and then using the properties of continuity to show that the function must cross the mid-point of the interval, thus proving the theorem.

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