Weird version of covariant derivative on wikipedia

In summary, the author discusses the concept of four force in general relativity and how it differs from special relativity due to the use of covariant derivatives. The distinction between inertial and non-inertial coordinates is also mentioned.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-force

At the bottom of that page, the author provides the generalization of four force in general relativity, where the partial derivative is replaced with the covariant derivative.

However if you notice on the second term in the third equality, there is a four vector summed on mu with the gamma symbols, is that there to select the 0th component of the gamma symbol? Since in a MCRF frame, the spatial components of U are all 0.
 
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That's because it's not really the covariant derivative. It's the absolute derivative, which is the covariant derivative taken along the particle's world line. That is,

Fλ = DPλ/Dτ = PλUμ
 
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In special relativity, the chain rule gives

[tex]\frac{d}{d\tau} = \frac{dx^\alpha}{d\tau} \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\alpha} = U^\alpha \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\alpha}.[/tex]

In general relativity, the partial derivative have to be replace by covariant derivatives, so

[tex]U^\alpha \nabla_{\partial_\alpha},[/tex]

and

[tex]U^\alpha \nabla_{\partial_\alpha} = \nabla_{U^\alpha \partial_\alpha} = \nabla_{U}[/tex]

Differentiating with respect to proper time is replaced by a covariant directional derivative in the direction of the 4-velocity.

[edit]didn't see Bill_K's post[/edit]
 
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Um because proper time is the parameter of the world line that the four velocity is tangent to?
 
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George Jones said:
In special relativity, the chain rule gives

[tex]\frac{d}{d\tau} = \frac{dx^\alpha}{d\tau} \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\alpha} = U^\alpha \frac{\partial}{\partial x^\alpha}.[/tex]

In general relativity, the partial derivative have to be replace by covariant derivatives, so

[tex]U^\alpha \nabla_{\partial_\alpha},[/tex]

Just a comment: the distinction isn't Special Relativity vs General Relativity, it's inertial, cartesian coordinates vs. noninertial, curvilinear coordinates.

The covariant derivative must be used whenever the basis vectors vary from place to place. That can be due to spacetime curvature, but it can also be due to using curvilinear coordinates.

For example, let's do ordinary Newtonian physics in 2D space. We have a particle whose position as a function of time is given by [itex]x=A[/itex], [itex]y=vt[/itex] where A and v are constants. So this is just constant-velocity motion. The velocity vector [itex]U[/itex] is given by [itex]U^x = 0[/itex], [itex]U^y = v[/itex].

Now, in terms of polar coordinates [itex]r[/itex] and [itex]\theta[/itex], the same motion looks like:

[itex]U^r = \dfrac{dr}{dt} = \dfrac{v^2 t}{r}[/itex]
[itex]U^\theta = \dfrac{d \theta}{dt} = \dfrac{A\ v}{r^2}[/itex]

That doesn't look like "constant velocity" at all:
[itex]\dfrac{dU^r}{dt} = \dfrac{v^2 (r^2 - (v t)^2)}{r^3} = \dfrac{v^2 A^2}{r^3}[/itex]
[itex]\dfrac{dU^\theta}{dt} = \dfrac{- A v^3 t}{r^4}[/itex]

But it is constant, if you use covariant derivatives, with
[itex]\Gamma^r_{r r} = 0[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^r_{r \theta} = 0[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^r_{\theta r} = 0[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^r_{\theta \theta} = -r[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^\theta_{r r} = 0[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^\theta_{r \theta} = \dfrac{1}{r}[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^\theta_{\theta r} = \dfrac{1}{r}[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^\theta_{\theta \theta} = 0[/itex]
 
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stevendaryl said:
Just a comment: the distinction isn't Special Relativity vs General Relativity, it's inertial, cartesian coordinates vs. noninertial, curvilinear coordinates.

The covariant derivative must be used whenever the basis vectors vary from place to place. That can be due to spacetime curvature, but it can also be due to using curvilinear coordinates.

Yes, good point.
 

Related to Weird version of covariant derivative on wikipedia

1. What is a covariant derivative?

A covariant derivative is a mathematical operation that is used to differentiate a vector field along a curve or surface. It takes into account the curvature of the space in which the vector field exists, and is commonly used in theories of relativity and differential geometry.

2. How is the covariant derivative different from the ordinary derivative?

The covariant derivative takes into account the curvature of the space, while the ordinary derivative does not. This means that the covariant derivative is a more general and powerful tool for differentiating vector fields in curved spaces.

3. What is the "weird" version of the covariant derivative mentioned on Wikipedia?

The "weird" version of the covariant derivative is a non-standard version that is sometimes used in certain mathematical contexts. It differs from the traditional definition of the covariant derivative in that it can involve different choices of basis vectors or connection coefficients.

4. Why is the "weird" version of the covariant derivative not commonly used?

The traditional definition of the covariant derivative is more widely used and accepted in mathematics and physics. The "weird" version is often seen as unnecessary or overly complicated, and is only used in specific cases where it may be more convenient or provide different insights.

5. How is the covariant derivative related to the concept of parallel transport?

The covariant derivative is closely related to parallel transport, which is the process of transporting a vector along a curve without changing its direction. The covariant derivative measures the change of a vector field along a curve, taking into account the changes in the underlying space due to curvature.

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