Some books will mention that dy/dx is a symbol

Thanks for the compliment, math-user1, but I have to admit that the "lim" definition is also used in most calculus books. I just wanted to give an example of something that was NOT a fraction and yet could be treated as one. Actually, I think the "h" definition is more intuitive than "lim" but "lim" is easier to prove things with..In summary, there is a common misconception that the derivative, dy/dx, is a fraction. However, this is not the case and it is important to understand the proofs behind derivative properties to truly grasp its meaning. While it may behave similarly to a fraction, it is actually a limit and can be represented in various ways such as y
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Some books will mention that dy/dx is a symbol some say its a fraction,wht the truth? please help
 
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It is NOT a fraction. Some properties of derivatives behave in the same way as fractions (which is why many people tend to drift away from its true meaning and more towards it simply being a fraction) but you need to recognize and understand the proofs behind these properties to realize that it's not simply "because that's how fractions work".

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\lim_{\Delta x\to 0} \frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]

While you too might drift away from thinking of it as a limit as treat it more like a fraction, while doing so, just appreciate that you can do so :wink:


p.s. There are other symbols to represent the derivative, such as y', f'(x) etc. So I'm guessing that the expression dy/dx was coined because it does make things simpler when using the chain rule and such.

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{dy}{du}.\frac{du}{dx}[/tex] is much easier to remember than [tex]f'(x)=g'(h(x))h'(x)[/tex] where [tex]y=g(u)[/tex] and [tex]u=h(x)[/tex]

Even though solving derivatives will be quickly done in your head this way, the representation of derivatives is much simpler to follow - especially when they get harder - the other way.
 
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tumelo said:
Some books will mention that dy/dx is a symbol some say its a fraction,wht the truth? please help
Could you please cite a specific book that says it is a fraction?

You should be aware of a distinction between "derivatives" and "differentials".
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{y(x+h)- y(x)}{h}[/tex]
, the differential, is NOT a fraction but, since it is the limit of a fraction, we can often go back "before" the limit, use the fraction property, the come "forward", taking the limit to show that it can be treated like a fraction.

To make use of that, we can define "dx" as a symbol, define dy= y'(x)dx and then define the "fraction" dy/dx. It is still not a "true" fraction because the "numerator" and "denominator" are not numbers or functions. I use y'(x) rather than dy/dx above so as not to confuse the two different uses of "dy/dx".
 
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Try not to look at it as a fraction (like everyone has already stated), but look at it as a ratio of change between two variables. Usually, x & y...or otherwise stated, how x changes in relation to y...a ratio of change.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \lim_{y\to 0}\frac{y(x+y)- y(x)}{h}[/tex]

A truly exotic configuration of symbols there, HallsofIvy...:devil:
 
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Yes, that particular definition of derivative is only known to us really advanced people!
 

Related to Some books will mention that dy/dx is a symbol

What is dy/dx and why is it mentioned in books?

dy/dx is a mathematical notation used to represent the derivative of a function with respect to its independent variable. It is commonly mentioned in books because it is a fundamental concept in calculus and is used to calculate the rate of change of a function.

How is dy/dx different from d/dx?

While both notations are used to represent derivatives, dy/dx specifically denotes the change in the dependent variable (y) with respect to the independent variable (x), while d/dx represents the general derivative of a function with respect to its independent variable.

What does the symbol dy/dx actually mean?

The symbol dy/dx is read as "dy by dx" and means the change in the dependent variable divided by the change in the independent variable. In other words, it represents the slope of the tangent line to the curve at a specific point.

Why is dy/dx sometimes referred to as a "ratio"?

Since dy/dx represents the change in two variables, it can be thought of as a ratio between the two. This ratio is used to calculate the instantaneous rate of change of a function at a specific point, which is useful in many applications.

Can dy/dx be used for all types of functions?

Yes, dy/dx can be used to find the derivative of any function, whether it is a polynomial, trigonometric, exponential, or any other type of function. It is a versatile notation that is applicable in all areas of calculus.

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