Small issue regarding the wording of a thermodynamics question

In summary, the conversation discusses a discrepancy in a homework problem involving the word "increase" and the values for work, heat, and internal energy. The equation dU = dQ + dW (1st law) is mentioned, and the attempt at a solution resulted in an answer of -160J. The conversation also brings up the equations for change in internal energy and change in pressure and volume, and suggests that the given data may not be compatible with the calculated change in internal energy.
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dregozo

Homework Statement


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The issue is the word 'increase' in c)iii), where I'm pretty sure the wording should have been 'decrease' or at least 'change', since both the work done and the heat removed have a negative value.

Homework Equations


dU = dQ + dW (1st law)

The Attempt at a Solution


My answer to c)iii) was -160J.
 

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dregozo said:
The issue is the word 'increase' in c)iii), where I'm pretty sure the wording should have been 'decrease' or at least 'change', since both the work done and the heat removed have a negative value.
"Increase" IS change; don't get your knickers in a knot.
 
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Can't agree with you there, an answer of -160J can't possibly suit the description of an INCREASE in internal energy!
 
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Something seems very wrong with this problem statement. If the initial and final states of the system are thermodynamic equilibrium states for an ideal gas, then we must have that $$\Delta (PV)=nR\Delta T$$ and
$$\Delta U=nC_v\Delta T$$Combining these two equations gives:$$\Delta U=\frac{C_v}{R}\Delta (PV)$$For a monoatomic ideal gas the ratio of the heat capacity to the gas constant is 1.5, and for a diatomic gas, it is 2.5. From the data given in the table, $$\Delta (PV)=-5\ J$$This doesn't seem compatible with the change of -160 J calculated from the work and the heat removed. Thoughts?
 

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1. What is the purpose of thermodynamics in science?

Thermodynamics is a branch of physics that studies the relationship between heat, energy, and work. It helps us understand how energy is transferred and transformed in different systems and processes.

2. Can you explain the difference between heat and temperature?

Heat is a form of energy that is transferred from one object to another due to a temperature difference. Temperature, on the other hand, is a measure of the average kinetic energy of the particles in a substance.

3. How does the first law of thermodynamics apply to this small wording issue?

The first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed. In the case of a small wording issue, the energy of the system (the question) remains the same, but it is transformed into a different form (a different wording).

4. Is the wording of a thermodynamics question important?

Yes, the wording of a thermodynamics question is important as it can affect the clarity and accuracy of the question. In science, precise and specific language is necessary to ensure that the intended information is conveyed accurately.

5. Can you provide an example of how a small wording issue can affect the answer to a thermodynamics question?

For example, if a question asks for the change in internal energy, but the wording is slightly different and asks for the change in enthalpy, the answers will be different as these are two different thermodynamic properties. This highlights the importance of carefully choosing and phrasing the wording of a question.

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