Raspberry Pi 5 Crashing: Wayland to X11?

[Swamp Thing]

Over the last few months I have had problems with certain applications on my Raspberry Pi 5. One application, FLDIGI, slowed the system to a crawl and was unuseable, although it ran well on a Pi 4. Another application, WSJTX, could not have its window resized or moved and would stubbornly superglue itself onto the middle of the screen.

Today I tried the screenshot program scrot (I know, terrible name) and it wouldn't work. Searching on this problem led me to a suggestion: switch back from Wayland to X11. (At this point I have only a vague idea what those are, except that they draw the windows and stuff on my screen).

The screen capture program began to work right away, and then I remembered the other two apps named above. Tried them out and lo and behold they are fine too.

Just thought I'd share this and maybe get your thoughts on this newfangled Wayland thing. And share this link: Wayland breaks everything!

 

[pbuk]

Over the last few months I have had problems with certain applications on my Raspberry Pi 5. One application, FLDIGI, slowed the system to a crawl and was unuseable, although it ran well on a Pi 4. Another application, WSJTX, could not have its window resized or moved and would stubbornly superglue itself onto the middle of the screen.

Have you downloaded (or built yourself) RPi5 (i.e. Bookworm) specific binaries for these apps?

Today I tried the screenshot program scrot (I know, terrible name) and it wouldn't work.

Screen capture is harder in Wayland by design (for security reasons). Having said that, I believe scrot has a release for RPiOS Bookworm (I don't have one to try): again, are you sure you are using the right release?

Just thought I'd share this and maybe get your thoughts on this newfangled Wayland thing.

No-one is working on X any more. OK that is a slight overstatement, but one day it will stop working. If you want to stick with it for now and put off the inevitable day then that's up to you, but it will keep getting harder to do that and easier to move to Wayland as time goes on.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Wasn't X recently renamed Twitter?

X is 40 years old. Think about that for a moment. The amazing thing isn't that it's being replaced; it's that it hasn't happened sooner.

 

[nsaspook]

Wasn't X recently renamed Twitter?

X is 40 years old. Think about that for a moment. The amazing thing isn't that it's being replaced; it's that it hasn't happened sooner.

IMO, Xorg (20 years old) is unlikely to replaced anytime soon because it is 40 years old and it works. Wayland, so far, is unnecessary for the vast majority of computing requirements on the desktop.

"No-one is working on X any more" Because they don't have to.
People are still fixing things in Xorg when they break but there almost no extra functionality to add for developers to bite at.

X11 will never truly die.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Is there any evidence that the Linux community can stand to leave well enough alone? They dumped a perfectly working cron (Paul Vixie's) for one that does the exact same thing.

 

[nsaspook]

Is there any evidence that the Linux community can stand to leave well enough alone? They dumped a perfectly working cron (Paul Vixie's) for one that does the exact same thing.

None. They moved from a perfectly acceptable init system to the virus called, systemd.
I've moved all my new systems to Devuan from Debian to avoid the virus.
https://www.devuan.org/