Question: Difference between FAR 23.397 and 23.143

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In summary, FAR23.397 and 23.143 outline the maximum permitted pilot forces and maximum loads on flight control surfaces for safe aircraft control and maneuvering. 143 limits the physical strength a pilot needs to fly the plane normally, while 398 ensures the control system prevents excessive force that could damage the aircraft. Note 2 in 397 also mentions the minimum force values for wind gust loads on control surfaces while the aircraft is on the ground. To fully understand these regulations, it is recommended to read the entire section from 391 to 459.
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Hi,
Can anyone here can explain to me the difference between FAR23.397 and 23.143?
What's the maximum and minimum force represents in 23.397?
 
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143 gives the maximum permitted pilot forces to safely control and maneuver the aircraft.
398 says the maximum loads on the flight control surfaces must never exceed what would resullt from the given pilot forces.

In other words, 143 is a limit on the physical strength the pilot needs to have, to fly the plane "normally" in a safe manner. 398 says that if the pilot applies a greater force to the controls (for example in an emergency situation), the control system much stop the pilot from damaging the aircraft by applying excessive force to the control surfaces.
 
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AlephZero said:
143 gives the maximum permitted pilot forces to safely control and maneuver the aircraft.
398 says the maximum loads on the flight control surfaces must never exceed what would resullt from the given pilot forces.

In other words, 143 is a limit on the physical strength the pilot needs to have, to fly the plane "normally" in a safe manner. 398 says that if the pilot applies a greater force to the controls (for example in an emergency situation), the control system much stop the pilot from damaging the aircraft by applying excessive force to the control surfaces.

Then I think that FAA will only quote the maximum force in 397. Why they quote the minimum force in 397? It's meaningless?
 
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See the cross-reference in Note 2 to wind gust loads on the control surfaces when the aircraft is on the ground (section 415). That gives one use for the "minimum" values in the table in 397.

I'm not a "expert" on this part of FAR, but in general, it's hard to understand individual regulations without getting the big picture of how they fit together. Reading the whole section from 391 to 459 might help.
 

Related to Question: Difference between FAR 23.397 and 23.143

1. What is FAR 23.397?

FAR 23.397 is a regulation set by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for the airworthiness of small aircraft.

2. What is FAR 23.143?

FAR 23.143 is also a regulation set by the FAA, but it specifically addresses the requirements for aircraft fuel systems and their components.

3. What is the difference between FAR 23.397 and 23.143?

The main difference between these two regulations is their focus. FAR 23.397 covers general airworthiness requirements for small aircraft, while FAR 23.143 specifically addresses fuel systems.

4. Are there any similarities between FAR 23.397 and 23.143?

While they have different focuses, both regulations are part of the same set of rules and standards set by the FAA for aircraft airworthiness. They both aim to ensure the safety and reliability of small aircraft.

5. Do these regulations apply to all small aircraft?

Yes, both FAR 23.397 and 23.143 apply to all small aircraft, including airplanes, helicopters, gyroplanes, and airships, that are used for non-commercial purposes and have a maximum takeoff weight of less than 19,000 pounds.

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