Precise definition of the limit of a sequence

In summary, the discussion revolves around the definition of finding a n_0 in either the set of natural numbers or real numbers, such that it satisfies the given conditions. It is mentioned that using n_0 from natural numbers may be simpler, but using n_0 from real numbers also works. The second point clarifies that using <ε or ≤ε in the definition makes no difference, as both are valid and equivalent definitions.
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In the definition,

1) why must you find a [itex]n_0 \in N[/itex] such that [itex]\forall N \geq n_0[/itex]? You might as well say find a [itex]n_0 \in R[/itex] such that [itex]\forall N > n_0[/itex]. Just a matter of simplicity?

2) Why must [itex]|x_n - a| < \epsilon[/itex] hold? I think [itex]|x_n - a| \leq \epsilon[/itex] is fine as well, given that it must hold [itex]\forall \epsilon > 0[/itex].
 
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1)They are subscripted by natural numbers in general ,i presume for simplicity and countability.
 
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1) Yes, taking [itex]n_0\in \mathbb{R}[/itex] works as well. But it is often simper to take [itex]n_0\in \mathbb{N}[/itex].

2) Having <ε or ≤ε makes no difference. Both definitions work and are equivalent.
 
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Great, thanks both!
 
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1) The reason we must find a n_0 \in N such that \forall N \geq n_0 is because the limit of a sequence is defined as the value that the terms of the sequence approach as n (the index of the term) becomes larger and larger. By choosing a n_0 \in N, we are ensuring that the terms of the sequence are approaching a specific value as n gets larger, rather than just approaching any value in the real numbers. This helps to provide a more precise and specific definition of the limit.

2) The inequality |x_n - a| < \epsilon must hold because it ensures that the terms of the sequence are getting closer and closer to the limit value, a. If we were to use |x_n - a| \leq \epsilon, it would allow for the possibility of the sequence oscillating around the limit value, rather than approaching it. By using the strict inequality, we are ensuring that the terms are getting arbitrarily close to the limit value as n gets larger, rather than just being within a certain range of it. This is important in defining the limit of a sequence as it captures the idea of approaching a specific value, rather than just being within a certain distance from it.
 

Related to Precise definition of the limit of a sequence

What is a sequence?

A sequence is a list of numbers that follows a specific pattern or rule. It can be finite or infinite and the numbers in the sequence are called terms.

What is the limit of a sequence?

The limit of a sequence is the value that the terms of the sequence approach as the number of terms increases towards infinity.

How is the limit of a sequence calculated?

The limit of a sequence can be calculated by finding the value that the terms of the sequence get closer and closer to as more terms are added. This can be done through various methods such as graphing, algebraic manipulation, or using specific limit formulas.

What is the difference between a sequence and a series?

A sequence is a list of numbers while a series is the sum of those numbers. In other words, a series is the result of adding the terms of a sequence together.

Why is the precise definition of the limit of a sequence important?

The precise definition of the limit of a sequence is important because it provides a rigorous and mathematical understanding of how the terms in a sequence behave as the number of terms increases. It also allows for the evaluation and comparison of different sequences and their limits.

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