Oddly Formatted Second Order ODE

In summary, the conversation discusses solving a multiple choice problem involving a second derivative and the constant omega. The correct solution involves using the characteristic equation and finding a particular solution with the form A*cos(wt) + B*sin(wt). However, there were errors in differentiating and distributing the omega constant, leading to an incorrect solution. The correct solution is y = c1ew0t + c2e-w0t + (cos(wt))/(w02).
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checkmatechamp
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Homework Statement


u'' + w20*u = cos(wt)

w refers to omega.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure where to begin on this. For starters, it's a multiple choice problem, and all the answers are given in terms of y, so I'm not sure if u is supposed to replace y' or something.

Second of all, even if I start solving it, trying to use r2 + 1*w20 = 0, and then getting that r = w0, where do I go from there? I have a general solution of y = c1ew0t + c2e-w0t

So then I say that the particular solution has to have the form A*cos(wt) + B*sin(wt), and the second derivative is -A*cos(wt) - B*sin(wt)

So then A*cos(wt) - B*sin(wt) + w02*A*cos(wt) + B*sin(wt) = cos(wt)

So then A*cos(wt) + w02*A*cos(wt) = 1*cos(wt)

So then that gets me that A + w02*A = 1, and A = 1/(w02)

The sine terms cancel (and there's no sine in the solution anyway)

So then I have y = c1ew0t + c2e-w0t + (cos(wt))/(w02).

The closest choice I see is c1*cos(w0t) + c2*sin(w0t) + (cos(wt))/w02, and that choice is wrong.
 
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checkmatechamp said:

Homework Statement


u'' + w20*u = cos(wt)

w refers to omega.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure where to begin on this. For starters, it's a multiple choice problem, and all the answers are given in terms of y, so I'm not sure if u is supposed to replace y' or something.

Second of all, even if I start solving it, trying to use r2 + 1*w20 = 0, and then getting that r = w0, where do I go from there? I have a general solution of y = c1ew0t + c2e-w0t
##r=\omega_0## isn't a solution. Plugging it into the characteristic equation would give you ##2\omega_0^2 = 0##, which isn't true in general.

So then I say that the particular solution has to have the form A*cos(wt) + B*sin(wt), and the second derivative is -A*cos(wt) - B*sin(wt)

So then A*cos(wt) - B*sin(wt) + w02*A*cos(wt) + B*sin(wt) = cos(wt)
You didn't differentiate correctly, you dropped a sign, and you made an algebra errors distributing ##\omega_0^2##.

So then A*cos(wt) + w02*A*cos(wt) = 1*cos(wt)

So then that gets me that A + w02*A = 1, and A = 1/(w02)

The sine terms cancel (and there's no sine in the solution anyway)

So then I have y = c1ew0t + c2e-w0t + (cos(wt))/(w02).

The closest choice I see is c1*cos(w0t) + c2*sin(w0t) + (cos(wt))/w02, and that choice is wrong.
 

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What is an "Oddly Formatted Second Order ODE"?

An "Oddly Formatted Second Order ODE" is a type of second order ordinary differential equation (ODE) that does not follow the typical format of y'' = F(x,y,y'). Instead, it may have unusual or non-standard terms, coefficients, or functions involved.

What makes an "Oddly Formatted Second Order ODE" different from a regular second order ODE?

The main difference between an "Oddly Formatted Second Order ODE" and a regular second order ODE is the non-typical format. Regular second order ODEs follow a standard form of y'' = F(x,y,y'), making them easier to solve and analyze. "Oddly Formatted Second Order ODEs" can be more challenging to solve due to their unusual format.

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