Obtaining a variable value from a 5-th degree polynomial in the tangent form

In summary, the conversation discusses obtaining the value of ##\rho (\phi)## after finding the coefficients ##c_0## to ##c_5## of ##\sigma (\phi)## through the use of the FDIWO optimization algorithm. The writers imply that the integration in the equation for ##\rho (\phi)## should be performed numerically, rather than analytically. This approach would allow for the generation of a table of ##\rho (\phi)## values for different ##\phi## values.
  • #1
baby_1
159
15
TL;DR Summary
The integral of a 5-th polynomial in the tangent form
Hello,

Please see this part of the article.

Pb4u7.png


I need to obtain the ##\rho (\phi)## value after obtaining the c0 to c5 constants of the ##\sigma (\phi)##. But as you can see after finding the coefficients, solving Eq.(1) could be a demanding job(I wasn't able to calculate the integral of Eq(1) and obtain the ##\rho (\phi)## ). I need to know how to find ##\rho (\phi)## values for different ##\phi## values.

$$\frac{1}{\rho (\phi )}\frac{d\rho (\phi)}{d\phi}= \\
tan(\frac{c_{0}+c_{1}\phi+c_{2}\phi^2+c_{3}\phi^3+c_{4}\phi^4+c_{5}\phi^5}{2})=>
\\ln(\rho (\phi ))=\int (tan(\frac{c_{0}+c_{1}\phi+c_{2}\phi^2+c_{3}\phi^3+c_{4}\phi^4+c_{5}\phi^5}{2})d\phi)$$

Or, I follow the wrong way.

The writers implied that after finding the ##\sigma (\phi)## the ##\rho (\phi)## could find easily.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
baby_1 said:
The writers implied that after finding the ##\sigma (\phi)## the ##\rho (\phi)## could find easily.
Your derived equation looks correct, provided you add the appropriate limits of integration. But I'm not convinced that the authors' "find easily" implication refers to performing the integration analytically in closed form. Instead, they may intend the integral to be performed numerically, which looks to be pretty straight forward once you have the values of the six C coefficients. The C's are apparently found from something called the "FDIWO synthesis technique". Is FDIWO a numerical technique involving something like FDTD or finite-elements? If so, that would suggest also using a numerical approach to evaluate your integral.
 
  • Like
Likes baby_1
  • #3
I appreciate your help.
Yes, I don't understand how they obtain ##\rho (\phi)## for different values of ##\phi## -because this equation should be solved for many values of ##\phi##.

No, the FDIWO is the acronym of frequency-dependent IWO- an optimization algorithm to find the C0 to Cn values-.
 
Last edited:
  • #4
baby_1 said:
Yes, I don't understand they obtain ##\rho (\phi)## for different values of ##\phi## -because this equation should be solved for many values of ##\phi##.
With a computer you can perform this integration repeatedly and rapidly to generate a numerical table of ##\rho (\phi)## values.
baby_1 said:
No, the FDIWO is the acronym of frequency-dependent IWO- an optimization algorithm to find the C0 to Cn values-.
But my question was how this optimization is performed: analytically or numerically? Either way, once you have the C's, use repeated numerical integration to get your table of values.
 
  • Like
Likes baby_1
  • #5
Thank you very much for your response. Yes, the optimization is performed numerically. So it means I should use the numerical form of the above equation instead of the analytical form.
 
  • Like
Likes renormalize

Similar threads

  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
1
Views
902
  • Differential Equations
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
502
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
17
Views
436
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
34
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
7
Views
484
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
0
Views
598
Replies
2
Views
430
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
7
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Back
Top