Measuring inductance with Anderson's bridge

In summary, the conversation is about an experiment involving the use of an Anderson's bridge to investigate the inductance of inductors with Perspex and Copper cores. The theoretical inductance of the Perspex core is compared to the experimental value, and the relative permeability of copper is also measured. However, there is a significant difference between the theoretical and experimental values, and it is believed to be due to a mistake in the calculation of the coil radius.
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Homework Statement



This is more to do with an experiment I'm failing terribly at rather than a direct homework question. I could not find the right section to ask this in.

Investigate the inductance of inductors with cores of Perspex and Copper using an Anderson's bridge. For Perspex, compare the experimental value with the theoretical value.



Homework Equations



Equation for inductance when zero output is achieved across the detector ('balance');

L = [itex] \frac {C R_2}{R_4}(R_3 R_4 + r R_3 + r R_ 4) [/itex]

[itex] C, R_2, R_4 [/itex] were kept constant at [itex] 1nF, 30Ω, 10 kΩ [/itex] respectively while [itex] R_3, r [/itex] were varied to achieve balance. Theoretical inductance of toroid from dimensions;

[itex] L = \frac {μ_0 N^2 A}{2 \pi r_t} [/itex]

In this case I was given that N, the number of turns, was 500. [itex] r_t [/itex], the radius of the toroid to centreline was 1.1cm, and the radius of the coil (used to find A) was 0.25mm.

Relative permeability;

[itex] μ = \frac {L_{material}}{L_{vacuum}} [/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



If anyone doesn't know what Anderson's bridge is, it's an a.c. equivalent of a Wheatstone bridge. Inductance is found by varying the resistance of two resistors until balance (zero output) is achieved on the detector and using equations invoked from Kirchoff's laws (put in the relevant equations section) - while keeping two other resistors and a capacitor constant. The inductors are coils bent into a toroid surrounding the cores. I've been given the dimensions of the inductors (the toroid) so that I can calculate a theoretical value of the inductance of the Perspex core (by assuming the relative permeability is 1)

The thing is, the difference between my theoretical value and experimental value is two orders of magnitude! I've checked and checked and checked and I am not wrong when plugging these numbers into the appropriate formulae. The theoretical inductance I get for Perspex is roughly 1x10^-6 (you can check this out yourselves), whereas my experimental gives me 1.4x10^-4.

Another problem is that I'm measuring the relative permeability of copper using the equation above. It returns to me a value of roughly 100, when I know that the actual value for the permeability of copper should be just less than one (since it's diamagnetic).

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the right problem may be? I have a feeling it's because my theoretical value for the inductance of the toroid is too low, but I would have no idea why.
 
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I think we need a diagram of the anderson bridge so we know what R1, R2 etc. are & where L and C are located.
 
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I've realized my mistake. I thought the radius of the coil was 0.25mm due to a misread of the laboratory script. However I realized this was a ridiculous size and I've now found out that this was actually the radius of the wire - a dimension I'm fairly sure I don't use for this experiment. The actual coil radius is close to 0.45mm, giving me a much more suitable value for the theoretical inductance.
 
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Related to Measuring inductance with Anderson's bridge

1. What is Anderson's bridge?

Anderson's bridge is an electrical circuit used for measuring inductance. It was invented by American physicist Percy Anderson in the late 19th century.

2. How does Anderson's bridge work?

Anderson's bridge works by comparing the unknown inductance with a known capacitance and resistance. By varying the capacitance and resistance until the bridge is balanced, the value of the unknown inductance can be calculated.

3. What equipment is needed to measure inductance with Anderson's bridge?

To measure inductance with Anderson's bridge, you will need a power supply, a signal generator, a detector (such as a galvanometer), a variable capacitor, and a variable resistor. You will also need the Anderson bridge circuit itself, which can be constructed using standard electronic components.

4. What are the advantages of using Anderson's bridge for measuring inductance?

One of the main advantages of Anderson's bridge is its high accuracy. It can measure inductance values with an accuracy of up to 0.01%. Additionally, it is a relatively simple and inexpensive circuit to construct.

5. Are there any limitations to using Anderson's bridge for measuring inductance?

One limitation of Anderson's bridge is that it is not suitable for measuring low inductance values (less than 1 μH). It is also not suitable for measuring inductors with high internal resistance or capacitance, as this can affect the accuracy of the measurements.

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