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What observational evidence suggests the existence of repulsive gravity?
Chronos said:What observational evidence suggests the existence of repulsive gravity?
Rade said:In this paper,what I find of great interest is this claim from abstract:
..."In the hydrogen atom, a part of the negative mass of proton interacts with the positive mass of the electron, the total mass energy lost in this interaction changes into electromagnetic energy, and then the two particles bond together..."
Now, I ask, what in the world can he mean "...a part of the negative mass of the proton...(where could this mass be ??). So I consider the not so well discussed "proton sea" (but known experimentally)--a spatial area of the proton outside the 3 valence quarks--and this leads me to consider what seems a logical possibility derived from the paper by Dr. Javahery that the "negative mass" of the proton being discussed may be within the "proton sea".
Next--note the statement from the paper that there is a predicted interaction between (1) negative mass of proton, and (2) positive mass of electron--again, how ?? If it is true that the negative mass is within the proton sea and outside the valance quarks, then, yes, a high probability of interaction is possible because also is found the electron outside valance quarks of proton with possible position within proton sea.
But, what can be a proposed mechanism of the dynamics of this interaction ? Here I offer one hypothesis. Let us assume that within the "proton sea" we have the proton negative mass in the form of anti-matter proton, which we know would be required to have a positron (e+) attached. So, when the paper says ...In the hydrogen atom, a part of the negative mass of proton interacts with the positive mass of the electron, the total mass energy lost in this interaction changes into electromagnetic energy, and then the two particles bond together..., I suggest it may be an interaction between a positron (e+) with negative mass plus an electron (e-) with positive mass, with the net result being the "bonding" mentioned (and from previous post we read possibility that negative mass is coupled with negative gravity, so a type of gravity--antigravity interaction may also exist?). Now, it is not a crazy idea that positron + electron can form union--it is called positronium. Nor a crazy idea that proton and antiproton can form union--it is called protonium. Classically both of these "alone" are very unstable with short half-life, but this paper suggests possibility the two may be combined to form a type of dialectic union of dual opposites (that is, a quantum superposition of positronium + protonium).
In summary, I suggest that one hypothesis (open to experimental falsification) to explain the conclusion of the above paper by Dr. Javahery is that what we observe as the "proton" {[P]e-} as a metaphysical entity may have a veiled reality due to an interaction between asymmetrical mass entities of matter with positive mass, and antimatter with negative mass--and here is another paper where such a model of the atomic nucleus of the proton and neutron is presented: http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2006/PP-04-03.PDF I hope that someone can apply the predictions of this paper to predictions in Dr. Javahery paper about existence of negative mass.
I do not accept the effect of gravity and antigravity in this hypothesis.Rade said:In this paper,what I find of great interest is this claim from abstract:
..."In the hydrogen atom, a part of the negative mass of proton interacts with the positive mass of the electron, the total mass energy lost in this interaction changes into electromagnetic energy, and then the two particles bond together..."
Now, I ask, what in the world can he mean "...a part of the negative mass of the proton...(where could this mass be ??).
The answers to these questions have been explained in the text http://www.wbabin.net/science/javaheri.pdf and not in the abstract.
So I consider the not so well discussed "proton sea" (but known experimentally)--a spatial area of the proton outside the 3 valence quarks--and this leads me to consider what seems a logical possibility derived from the paper by Dr. Javahery that the "negative mass" of the proton being discussed may be within the "proton sea".
Next--note the statement from the paper that there is a predicted interaction between (1) negative mass of proton, and (2) positive mass of electron--again, how ?? The answers to these questions have been explained in the text http://www.wbabin.net/science/javaheri.pdf and not in the abstract. If it is true that the negative mass is within the proton sea and outside the valance quarks, then, yes, a high probability of interaction is possible because also is found the electron outside valance quarks of proton with possible position within proton sea.
But, what can be a proposed mechanism of the dynamics of this interaction ? Here I offer one hypothesis. Let us assume that within the "proton sea" we have the proton negative mass in the form of anti-matter proton, which we know would be required to have a positron (e+) attached. So, when the paper says ...In the hydrogen atom, a part of the negative mass of proton interacts with the positive mass of the electron, the total mass energy lost in this interaction changes into electromagnetic energy, and then the two particles bond together..., I suggest it may be an interaction between a positron (e+) with negative mass plus an electron (e-) with positive mass, with the net result being the "bonding" mentioned (and from previous post we read possibility that negative mass is coupled with negative gravity, so a type of gravity--antigravity interaction may also exist?). Now, it is not a crazy idea that positron + electron can form union--it is called positronium. Nor a crazy idea that proton and antiproton can form union--it is called protonium. Classically both of these "alone" are very unstable with short half-life, but this paper suggests possibility the two may be combined to form a type of dialectic union of dual opposites (that is, a quantum superposition of positronium + protonium).
In summary, I suggest that one hypothesis (open to experimental falsification) to explain the conclusion of the above paper by Dr. Javahery is that what we observe as the "proton" {[P]e-} as a metaphysical entity may have a veiled reality due to an interaction between asymmetrical mass entities of matter with positive mass, and antimatter with negative mass--and here is another paper where such a model of the atomic nucleus of the proton and neutron is presented: http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2006/PP-04-03.PDF I hope that someone can apply the predictions of this paper to predictions in Dr. Javahery paper about existence of negative mass.
Question--is the "negative mass" you discuss within the "proton sea" -- yes or no ? and please explain answer. Thank you--from this answer we can move forward.rjavaheri said:I do not accept the effect of gravity and antigravity in this hypothesis.