Happy New Year: Infinite Sum Question Explanation

In summary, the conversation discusses a possible equation involving summation and a limit, but it is unclear if it is correct due to missing information and the need for absolute convergence. It is also mentioned that a derangement does not affect the sum when passing to the limit, but this is incorrect as it would require an ∞-k term, which is meaningless.
  • #1
matematikuvol
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Happy new year. All the best.

I have one question. Is it true?
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}a_kx^k=\sum^n_{k=0}a_{n-k}x^{n-k}[/tex]
I saw in one book relation
[tex]\sum^{\infty}_{k=0}\frac{(2k)!}{2^{2k}(k!)^2}(2xt-t^2)^k=\sum^{n}_{k=0}\frac{(2(n-k))!}{2^{2(n-k)}((n-k)!)^2}(2xt-t^2)^{n-k}[/tex]
Can you give me some explanation for this step?
 
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hi matematikuvol! :smile:

the RHS is a function of n (ie, it's different for different n), but the LHS isn't …

so that equation can't possibly be correct :redface:

perhaps they mean
[tex]\sum^{n}_{k=0}a_kx^k=\sum^n_{k=0}a_{n-k}x^{n-k}[/tex]
(which obviously is true)
 
  • #3
Hi matematikuvol,
Hi tiny-tim
I think what is missing in your equations is the term limit.
That is, the infinite sum would be (might be) the limit of the other sum when n goes to infinity.
But in this case, beware that although what tiny-tim says about it being obviously true (you just reverse the summation order) this is not necessarily true anymore when you take the limit.
For it to hold even when n goes to infinity your sum must be absolutely convergent, otherwise changing terms order in interesting ways could lead you to find the limit to be just about anything (0, ∏, whatever)
 
  • #4
oli4 said:
Hi matematikuvol,
Hi tiny-tim
I think what is missing in your equations is the term limit.
That is, the infinite sum would be (might be) the limit of the other sum when n goes to infinity.
But in this case, beware that although what tiny-tim says about it being obviously true (you just reverse the summation order) this is not necessarily true anymore when you take the limit.
For it to hold even when n goes to infinity your sum must be absolutely convergent, otherwise changing terms order in interesting ways could lead you to find the limit to be just about anything (0, ∏, whatever)


This particular derangement doesn't affect the sum when passing to the limit because [itex] \forall n \in \mathbb{N} , \sum_{k=0}^n a_k x^k = \sum_{k=0}^n a_{n-k} x^{n-k} [/itex]. Thus [itex] \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} a_k x^k = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} a_{n-k} x^{n-k} [/itex]
 
  • #5
JG89 said:
This particular derangement doesn't affect the sum when passing to the limit because [itex] \forall n \in \mathbb{N} , \sum_{k=0}^n a_k x^k = \sum_{k=0}^n a_{n-k} x^{n-k} [/itex]. Thus [itex] \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} a_k x^k = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} a_{n-k} x^{n-k} [/itex]

Your last remark is incorrect, since you are still looking at an n in each term of the infinite sum.
You would need ∞-k, which is meaningless in this context.
 

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