General Relativity and Minkowski space question

In summary: This is a really lengthy summary, but if you're interested, it's all detailed in the link provided!In summary, General Relativity is possible to be described by a theory in flat spacetime, provided you make certain assumptions about the strength of the gravitational field.
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Is the curved spacetime of General Relativity possible to be described by Minkowskian space which is flat, or do one need some other geometry?
 
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If you look at a small enough region of spacetime, it will look approximately flat, and in the limit where the size of the region goes to zero, it will look exactly like Minkowski space, assuming of course that there are no singularities in the region.
 
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And provided you don't measure second derivatives (which can be argued are non-local in common sense, if not the maths sense).
 
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Also there is an interesting sentence in Kip Thorne's book about black holes, time warps etc in which he says general relativity is equivalent to a theory in flat spacetime, but where clocks run fast, and rulers shrink. However the closest mathematical statement I have been able to find is Eqn 62 in section 4.3 of http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2006-3/ which requires that harmonic coordinates can be used.

I'd be interested to know if this is really what Thorne was referring to, or whether he meant something else.
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hi stolbein! Welcome to PF! :smile:
stolbein said:
Is the curved spacetime of General Relativity possible to be described by Minkowskian space which is flat, or do one need some other geometry?

It's like trying to map the Earth onto flat paper without losing the geometry … however you do it, the map is going to be distorted. :wink:
 
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As has been pointed out, it is possible to make the metric [tex] g_{\mu \nu} [/tex] be equal to the Minkowski metric [tex] \eta_{\mu \nu} [/tex] at any given (nonsingular) point, and to make all of its first derivatives vanish there, by using Riemann normal coordinates. However, the tensor [tex] R \indices{^{\mu}_{\nu}_{\sigma}_{\rho}} [/tex] (the Riemann curvature tensor) is an isometric invariant of the manifold, which is to say that if you keep the metric [tex] g_{\mu \nu} [/tex], then the curvature stays, too.

However, if we are only dealing with weak gravitational fields, then we may regard general relativity as the theory of a symmetric tensor [tex] h_{\mu \nu} [/tex] propagating against a flat, Minkowskian background; this is called linearized gravity, and is used to study gravitational waves. Specifically, we can write [tex] g_{\mu \nu} = \eta_{\mu \nu} + h_{\mu \nu} [/tex], where the perturbation [tex] h_{\mu \nu} [/tex] is assumed to contribute significantly to measurable quantities only to first order (this is the "weak-field" assumption). We then have [tex] g^{\mu \nu} = \eta^{\mu \nu} - h^{\mu \nu} [/tex] (again, to first order), and we can raise and lower indices using [tex] \eta [/tex] (in fact, [tex] h^{\mu \nu} [/tex] is defined here as [tex] \eta^{\mu \sigma} \eta^{\nu \rho} h_{\sigma \rho} [/tex]). We can then go on to derive the Riemann, Ricci, and Einstein tensors, and the Ricci scalar, to get the field equations. Alternatively, and in keeping with the viewpoint of a field theory on a flat background, we can define the Lagrangian
[tex]\displaystyle \mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{4} [2h \indices{^{\mu}^{\nu}_{,\mu}} h_{,\nu} - 2h \indices{^{\rho}^{\sigma}_{,\mu}} h \indices{^{\mu}_{\sigma}} + \eta^{\mu \nu} h \indices{^{\rho}^{\sigma}_{,\mu}} h_{\rho \sigma, \nu} - \eta^{\mu \nu} h_{,\mu} h_{,\nu} ] \textrm{,} [/tex]
which, when varied with respect to [tex] h_{\mu \nu} [/tex], gives the linearized Einstein equations.
 
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1. What is the concept of General Relativity?

General Relativity is a theory developed by Albert Einstein in the early 20th century to explain the force of gravity. It proposes that gravity is not a force between masses, but rather a curvature of space and time caused by the presence of mass and energy.

2. What is Minkowski space?

Minkowski space is a mathematical model of space and time developed by Hermann Minkowski. It is a four-dimensional space where the three dimensions represent space and the fourth dimension represents time. This model forms the basis of Einstein's theory of General Relativity.

3. How does General Relativity differ from Newton's theory of gravity?

Unlike Newton's theory, General Relativity does not consider gravity as a force between objects. Instead, it describes gravity as a result of the curvature of space and time caused by the presence of mass and energy. This theory also accounts for the effects of gravity on the trajectory of light and the bending of space and time.

4. What are some observations and experiments that have supported General Relativity?

One of the most famous observations that support General Relativity is the bending of light near massive objects, such as stars. This was first observed during a solar eclipse in 1919. Other experiments, such as the Shapiro delay and the Pound-Rebka experiment, have also provided evidence for the theory.

5. Can General Relativity be unified with other theories of physics?

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