Finding Freedom in U's Third Column for Unitary Matrices

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In summary: If so, then the result should be the hermitian of column 3, and that's what you should be solving for.
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Homework Statement



Find a third column so that U is unitary. How much freedom in column 3?

[ 1/√3 i/√2 ]
[1/√3 0 ] = U
[i/√3 1/√2 ]


Homework Equations



UHU=I
UH=U-1

The Attempt at a Solution



Obviously in order for the matrix to be unitary the inner product of their columns must be equal to zero.

I've constructed to equations by multiplying the hermitian of each of the first two columns times by the third column I designated,
[a]

[c].
These equations are a/√3+b/√3+ci/√3=0 and -ia/√2+c/√2=0.

However, I have two equations and three unknowns.

Is there another way to attempt the problem? Suggestions?
 
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Hi tatianaiistb! :smile:

The length of the 3rd vector is free, so you're supposed to be left with 1 unknown.
Fix any of the 3 unknowns to an arbitrary constant value and calculate the other 2.
(If you can't solve it, pick another unknown to fix.)
 
  • #3
the third column is completely determined, up to a multiple of a complex number lying on some circle.

you should be able to solve for either a and b in terms of c, a and c in terms of b, or b and c, in terms of a.

note that although we will still have one unknown, (a,b, or c), it's norm is known, and can be used to yield a vector in C3 with the desired properties (pick the positive real number with the proper norm, for example).

i solved for b and c in terms of a, that worked out well.
 
  • #4
I'm still stuck with this problem. After doing the Hermitian inner products of columns 1 and 2 with my unknown column [a b c], I got the two equations I previously stated:

a/sqrt3 + b/sqrtb - ci/sqrt3 = 0
-ia/sqrt2 + c/sqrt2 = 0

For my third equation, I used the length formula for complex numbers that:
absolut value of a^2 + absolute value of b ^2 + absolute value c^2 = 1

I then solved for a, b, and c, and got that a is 1/2, b is -1, and c is i/2.

When I checked, this column is orthogonal and of length 1. However, when I checked with U^H*U=I, I'm not getting the identity matrix... almost, but not quite. So I know something is wrong.

The answer should be (1/sqrt6, -2/sqrt6, i/sqrt6).

Any ideas?
 
  • #5
What's the determinant?
Is it perhaps -1?
It should be +1.
 
  • #6
So how do you suggest I go about solving the problem?
 
  • #7
If the determinant is -1, invert the sign of the 3rd vector.
 
  • #8
But I still cannot get U^H*U=I because as of right now, I'm getting the multiplication to equal
[1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 (3/2)]
The (3/2) should be a 1...

Any more suggestions? Thanks!
 
  • #9
I'm just looking at your matrix again and noticed that your first 2 columns aren't orthogonal.
Did you drop a minus sign?
 
  • #10
The first two columns, which are given by the problem, are orthogonal. Since we're dealing with complex numbers, if you take the inner product of X^H*y it does equal to 0.
 
  • #11
tatianaiistb said:
I'm still stuck with this problem. After doing the Hermitian inner products of columns 1 and 2 with my unknown column [a b c], I got the two equations I previously stated:

a/sqrt3 + b/sqrtb - ci/sqrt3 = 0
-ia/sqrt2 + c/sqrt2 = 0

For my third equation, I used the length formula for complex numbers that:
absolut value of a^2 + absolute value of b ^2 + absolute value c^2 = 1

I then solved for a, b, and c, and got that a is 1/2, b is -1, and c is i/2.

When I checked, this column is orthogonal and of length 1. However, when I checked with U^H*U=I, I'm not getting the identity matrix... almost, but not quite. So I know something is wrong.

The answer should be (1/sqrt6, -2/sqrt6, i/sqrt6).

Any ideas?

first of all, what we have is aa*+ bb* + cc* =

|a|2 + |b|2 + |c|2 = 1.

this is the complex norm or modulus, not "absolute value"

if you actually multiply:

[tex]\begin{bmatrix}1/\sqrt{3}&i/\sqrt{2}&a\\1/\sqrt{3}&0&b\\i/\sqrt{3}&1/\sqrt{2}&c\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}1/\sqrt{3}&1/\sqrt{3}&-i/\sqrt{3}\\-i/\sqrt{2}&0&1/\sqrt{2}\\ \overline{a}&\overline{b}&\overline{c} \end{bmatrix}[/tex]

and set equal to the identity matrix, you get:

|a| = 1/6
|b| = 2/3
|c| = 1/6

the vector (1/2, -1, i/2) is "the right direction" for your 3rd column, you just need to adjust by a scaling factor, z. note that:

(1/2)2 + (-1)2 + (i/2)(-i/2) = 1/4 + 1 + 1/4 = 3/2, not 1.
 
  • #12
tatianaiistb said:
The first two columns, which are given by the problem, are orthogonal. Since we're dealing with complex numbers, if you take the inner product of X^H*y it does equal to 0.

Hmm.

[tex]\begin{pmatrix} 1/√3 \\
1/√3 \\
i/√3 \\
\end{pmatrix} \cdot \begin{pmatrix}
i/√2 \\
0 \\
1/√2 \end{pmatrix} = i/√6 + 0 + i/√6 = 2i/√6[/tex]

Am I missing something? :confused:
 
  • #13
conjugate linearity?
 
  • #14
Deveno said:
conjugate linearity?

Ah, okay!
 
  • #15
[1/sqrt3 1/sqrt3 -i/sqrt3] [i/sqrt2 0 1/sqrt2]^T = 0 the first column is the hermitian, meaning the transpose of the conjugate

So are my first two equations correct? How are you solving for a,b,c using the U^H*U=I? I see what you're saying about the norm... The professor kept calling it "absolute," and that's part of my confusion.
 
  • #16
tatianaiistb said:
[1/sqrt3 1/sqrt3 -i/sqrt3] [i/sqrt2 0 1/sqrt2]^T = 0 the first column is the hermitian, meaning the transpose of the conjugate

So are my first two equations correct? How are you solving for a,b,c using the U^H*U=I? I see what you're saying about the norm... The professor kept calling it "absolute," and that's part of my confusion.

read post #11 again, you obtained a solution, but you need to normalize your vector, it's not a unit vector.
 
  • #17
tatianaiistb said:
[1/sqrt3 1/sqrt3 -i/sqrt3] [i/sqrt2 0 1/sqrt2]^T = 0 the first column is the hermitian, meaning the transpose of the conjugate

So are my first two equations correct? How are you solving for a,b,c using the U^H*U=I? I see what you're saying about the norm... The professor kept calling it "absolute," and that's part of my confusion.

tatianaiistb said:
I then solved for a, b, and c, and got that a is 1/2, b is -1, and c is i/2.

When I checked, this column is orthogonal and of length 1.

As Deveno pointed out, it is not length 1.
||(1/2, -1, i/2)||2 = (1/2, -1, i/2)H (1/2, -1, i/2) = 3/2

You can also write:
||(1/2, -1, i/2)||2 = |1/2|2 + |-1|2 + |i/2|2 = 3/2
 
  • #18
After normalizing the vector, I'm still not getting the right answer...

a=(1/2)/sqrt(3/2)=sqrt6 / 6
b=-1/sqrt(3/2)= - sqrt6 / 3
c=(i/2)/sqrt(3/2)= (sqrt6 / 6)*i

The answer is supposed to be (1/sqrt6) * (1,-2,i)

Where did I err again? Thanks!
 
  • #19
√6/6 = √6/(√6)2 = 1/√6

√6/3 = (√2)(√3)/(√3)2 = √2/√3 = (√2)2/(√2)(√3) = 2/√6

trust the force, luke.
 
  • #20
tatianaiistb said:
After normalizing the vector, I'm still not getting the right answer...

a=(1/2)/sqrt(3/2)=sqrt6 / 6
b=-1/sqrt(3/2)= - sqrt6 / 3
c=(i/2)/sqrt(3/2)= (sqrt6 / 6)*i

The answer is supposed to be (1/sqrt6) * (1,-2,i)

Where did I err again? Thanks!

No error, this is the right answer.
[tex]{\sqrt 6 \over 6}={1 \over \sqrt 6}[/tex]
 
  • #21
Ooops, so I guess I have the correct answer in a different format...

Thanks all for your help!
 

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1. What is the "Third Column" in unitary matrices?

The "Third Column" in unitary matrices refers to the third column of the matrix, which contains complex numbers that represent the transformation of the third basis vector in the matrix.

2. How does the "Third Column" relate to finding freedom in unitary matrices?

The "Third Column" is crucial in determining the freedom of a unitary matrix. If the third column is independent from the first two columns, then there is more freedom in the unitary matrix. However, if the third column is a linear combination of the first two columns, then the matrix has less freedom.

3. Why is finding freedom in unitary matrices important?

Finding freedom in unitary matrices is important because it allows us to determine the number of independent parameters in the matrix. This information is useful in various applications, such as quantum mechanics and signal processing.

4. How is the "Third Column" used in calculating the determinant of a unitary matrix?

The "Third Column" is used in calculating the determinant of a unitary matrix by taking the dot product of the third column with the cross product of the first two columns. This results in a complex number that represents the magnitude and phase of the determinant.

5. Can the "Third Column" of a unitary matrix be zero?

Yes, the "Third Column" of a unitary matrix can be zero if the matrix is orthogonal. In this case, the third basis vector does not undergo any transformation, and the matrix has no freedom in the third column.

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