Electric+Magnetic Force Between a & b Charges: Inertial Frames

In summary, in the scenario where two charges (a and b) are moving, the lab frame will experience both an electric and magnetic force, while a rest frame will only experience an electric force. Relativistically, the electric and magnetic forces cannot be separated and are two sides of the same coin. The concept of a regular 3-force is not invariant between frames, but the 4-force acting on an object and its proper acceleration should be considered instead. In any inertial reference frame, the force on a charged particle is given by the Lorentz equation, which includes the Lorentz factor, electric charge, and electromagnetic field.
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Let's assume that a and b charges are moving. now in our lab frame there will be a electric+magnetic force whereas in a rest frame of either of the charges, there will be only an electric force.
So, two inertial observers will measure different forces?
 
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So, two inertial observers will measure different forces?
Relativistically, it is not really accurate to separate the electric and magnetic forces. What appears as an only an electric field in one frame will appear as a magnetic and an electric field in others. The electric and magnetic fields are two sides of the same coin.

Also, the concept of a regular 3-force is not invariant between frames. What you want to look at is the 4-force acting on an object and its corresponding proper acceleration.
 
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In any inertial reference frame the force on a charged particle is given by Lorentz
$$m \frac{\mathrm{d}^2 x^{\mu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau^2} = K^{\mu}=\frac{q}{c} F^{\mu \nu} \frac{\mathrm{d} x_{\nu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau},$$
i.e., the spatial components are
$$\vec{K}^{\mu} = \gamma q \left (\vec{E}+\frac{\vec{v}}{c} \times \vec{B} \right ),$$
where ##\vec{v}=\mathrm{d} \vec{x}/\mathrm{d} t## is the usual three-velocity in the given inertial reference frame, ##\gamma=(1-\vec{v}^2/c^2)^{-1/2}## the Lorentz factor, ##q## the electric charge of the particle, and ##(\vec{E},\vec{B})## the electromagnetic field.
 

Related to Electric+Magnetic Force Between a & b Charges: Inertial Frames

1. What is the electric and magnetic force between two charges?

The electric and magnetic force between two charges is the interaction between two charged particles due to their electric and magnetic fields. This force is responsible for many phenomena, such as the attraction or repulsion of charged particles and the movement of electrically charged objects.

2. How is the electric and magnetic force affected by inertial frames?

The electric and magnetic force between two charges is not affected by inertial frames. This means that the force between two charged particles will be the same regardless of the frame of reference from which it is observed. This is a fundamental principle of electromagnetism known as the principle of relativity.

3. What is the relationship between electric and magnetic force?

Electric and magnetic forces are closely related. They are both components of the electromagnetic force, which is one of the four fundamental forces of nature. The relationship between the two forces is described by Maxwell's equations, which explain how electric and magnetic fields are generated and how they interact with each other.

4. How can I calculate the electric and magnetic force between two charges?

The electric and magnetic force between two charges can be calculated using Coulomb's law and the Lorentz force law, respectively. Coulomb's law describes the force between two stationary charges, while the Lorentz force law describes the force on a charged particle moving through a magnetic field.

5. Can the electric and magnetic force be shielded or canceled out?

Yes, the electric and magnetic force can be shielded or canceled out. This is often done using conductive materials to create a Faraday cage, which can block external electric and magnetic fields. Additionally, the electric and magnetic forces can be canceled out by equal and opposite charges or currents, respectively.

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