Cycle notation of permutations

In summary: Hi, in summary, there are 5! different permutations for (ab)(cde). There are 2-cycles for (ab)(cde) and (ba)(cde) is the same permutation. There are 3-cycles for (ab)(cde) and (ba)(ced) is the same permutation. There are 4-cycles for (ab)(cde) and (ba)(cd). There are 5-cycles for (ab)(cde) and (ba)(cde).
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Homework Statement



How many elements of each cycle-type are there in S5?


The Attempt at a Solution


One way of working this out would be to write out each permutation and see how many 2-cycles, 3-cycles ,4-cycles and 5-cycles there are but given that there are 5! permutations this would take very long.

Does anybody know of an easier way to see the answer?
 
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Hi gottfried!

Rather than writing them all out, I suggest only starting to write them all out.
And while doing so, trying to see patterns that be generalized, so you don't have to write them all out.

Perhaps more to the point.
Suppose you want to know how many 3 cycles there are.
How many choices do you have for each number, considering they have to be different?
That is, how many 3-tuples are there with 3 different numbers?

And how many of those 3-tuples are duplicates as 3-cycles?

Btw, there are more cycle-types than the ones you mention.
So don't forget to check you get a total of exactly 5!=120 cycle types.
 
  • #3
Hi
Thanks for the help.

So after considering what you have said I can see that any cycle written (abc) is the same as (bca) and (cab). This means that while counting the number of 3-tuples it will give you an answer 3 times the number of 3-cycles. Same logic holds for 2, 4 and 5 cycles.
Therefore there are
(5.4)/2 = 10:# 2-cycles.
(5.4.3)/3 = 20:#3-cycles
(5.4.3.2)/4=30:#4-cycles
(5.4.3.2)/5=24:#5-cycles
also the identity (12)(12) so that is 85 cycles.

This part makes total sense (assuming I'm right) but I don't know how to count the number of cycles in the form (ab)(cd) and (ab)(cde)
 
  • #4
Well, first, I'd write out what the different cycle types there is. As you probably know, there are p(5) (the partition function) different cycle types. I'd start there, and for each cycle type, do as I Like Serena said and see what you come up with. However, I Like Serena said to make sure you come up with 5! cycle types, but I think what he meant was make sure you come up with 5! different permutations. As I said, there are only p(5) = 7 cycle types.
 
  • #5
Good!

And yes, as Robert said, I meant that there should be 120 different permutations.

So for (ab)(cde), how many 5-tuples of 5 different numbers?
Is (ba)(cde) the same permutation?
And (ba)(ced)?
In other words, how many duplications?

The form (ab)(cd) is actually the most complex form.
But let's do (ab)(cde) first.

Btw, the so called "cycle type" of (ab)(cde) is (3,2), which should not be confused with (3 2) which is a 2-cycle.
 

Related to Cycle notation of permutations

1. What is cycle notation of permutations?

Cycle notation of permutations is a method used to represent permutations in mathematics. It involves breaking down a permutation into its individual cycles, where each cycle represents a specific movement of elements in the permutation.

2. How do you write a permutation in cycle notation?

To write a permutation in cycle notation, start by listing the elements in their original order. Then, identify the elements that have been moved and write them in a cycle starting with the first element. If there are any elements left, continue the cycle by listing the next element that has been moved. Repeat this process until all elements have been included.

3. What is the significance of cycle notation in permutations?

Cycle notation allows us to easily visualize the movements of elements in a permutation. It also helps us to easily calculate the order of a permutation and determine its properties, such as whether it is an even or odd permutation.

4. How do you determine the order of a permutation using cycle notation?

To determine the order of a permutation using cycle notation, find the length of each cycle and then find the least common multiple of all the cycle lengths. This will give you the order of the permutation.

5. Can you have multiple representations of the same permutation in cycle notation?

Yes, it is possible to have multiple representations of the same permutation in cycle notation. This is because the order in which the cycles are written does not change the overall permutation. However, it is important to note that the number of cycles and the elements within each cycle must remain the same for the representations to be equivalent.

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