Are external and internal forces distinct in their effects on objects?

In summary, the distinction between internal and external forces depends on the system boundaries. External forces act from a distance and internal forces are contact forces, except for frictional forces. According to Newton's Third Law, every force has an equal and opposite reaction. In a system where all forces are internal, the net force will be zero. This is applicable in a universe described by Newtonian mechanics.
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Can external forces be considered as the forces acting from a distance and internal forces are the contact forces(except frictional forces)?
since we know that according to Newton 3rd law every object making a force on a second object the second object will make the same force on the first object but in opposite direction.
But in this case if we take for example a certain object if all the forces acting on this object are contact forces(except frictional) then the net force acting on this object is the sum of the internal forces.
 
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Contact forces may be external or internal as may non contact forces. That is not the distinction between internal and external forces.

Forces represent interactions in Newtonian physics. An external force is an interaction between the system and something outside the system. An internal force is an interaction between two different parts of the system.

So internal or external depends on how you draw your system boundaries, which is arbitrary.
 
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No, external forces are forces from objects outside your system that act on constituents of your system. Whether a force is internal or external depends on what you define as your system.
 
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OK.
If the system is the whole universe then all the forces will be internal forces. Does this mean that the net force will be zero as all the internal forces are action-reaction forces?
 
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In a universe which is well described by Newtonian mechanics, yes.
 
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Thanks for the replies!
 

Related to Are external and internal forces distinct in their effects on objects?

What are external and internal forces?

External forces refer to the forces acting on an object or system from outside sources, while internal forces refer to the forces acting within the object or system itself.

What is the difference between external and internal forces?

The main difference between external and internal forces is their origin. External forces come from outside the object or system, while internal forces come from within the object or system itself.

What are some examples of external forces?

Examples of external forces include gravity, friction, air resistance, and magnetic fields. These forces can act on an object or system from outside sources.

What are some examples of internal forces?

Examples of internal forces include tension, compression, and shear. These forces arise from within an object or system and act on its internal structure.

How do external and internal forces affect an object or system?

External forces can cause an object or system to move, change direction, or deform. Internal forces can also cause deformation but are often balanced and do not result in any net change in motion.

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