A funny proof, but what is wrong with it?

In summary, the conversation discusses a funny proof for proving an inequality involving natural numbers. The assumption made in the proof is that for all positive integers n, [(n+1)/2]^n < n!, but it is later proven to be false by providing a counter example. The mistake in the proof lies in the fact that it does not consider all possible values of n. The correct negation of the assumption would be "There is a natural number n such that the inequality does not hold."
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Here's a question:-

Prove that for all positive integers n,

[(n+1)/2]^n >= n!

And here's a funny proof for it:-

Assume to the contrary that, for all positive integers n,

[(n+1)/2]^n < n!

However, for n=2,

(3/2)^2 > 2!

Therefore, our assumption must be false.

And hence, for all positive integers n, [(n+1)/2]^n >= n!

Now, I know that this proof can't be correct, because I've seen the real proof, and it's a marvel, making use of algebraic inequalities, and the proof above simply seems too simple compared to it. But I wonder, what's the mistake with the above proof?
 
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  • #2
You've made a logic mistake.

Consider the sentence

"All men are mortal"

This is true. But what's the negation of this sentence?? Is it

"All men are immortal"?

or is it

"There is a man that is immortal"??

It's the second one.

So, if your assertion is

"For all natural numbers n holds the inequality blabla"

then the negation of that is

"There is a natural number n such that the inequality does not hold"

Your proof shows that the inequality holds for n=2. But this does not contradict the negation, as there could still be an n such that it doesn't hold.
 
  • #3
The assumption that for all possible integers n, n!>[(n+1)/2]^n is violated by your counter example, so that demonstrates that your assumption is false. You have not checked all possible values of n so it says nothing about any of those values. Your assumption being false says nothing about the case of only some n's satisfying the inequality.
 
  • #4
Oh...now I understand. Thanks, micromass and bmxicle! :D
 
  • #5


I appreciate your curiosity and desire to understand the flaw in this funny proof. The mistake lies in the assumption made in the beginning of the proof. By assuming that [(n+1)/2]^n < n!, we are essentially assuming that the statement we are trying to prove is false. This is known as proof by contradiction, and it is not a valid method of proof in mathematics. In order to prove a statement, we must use logical steps and evidence to show that it is true, not assume that it is false and then prove that this assumption leads to a contradiction. Additionally, the example used to demonstrate this assumption being false (n=2) does not hold true for all positive integers n, so it cannot be used as evidence for the overall statement. Overall, this funny proof may seem convincing at first, but upon closer examination, it is not a valid proof and cannot be relied upon to support the statement.
 

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What is a funny proof?

A funny proof is a mathematical or logical argument that seems to be valid and convincing, but upon closer inspection or deeper understanding, it is actually flawed or incorrect. These types of proofs often rely on logical fallacies or mathematical errors, but the humor comes from the initial plausibility of the argument.

Why are funny proofs commonly used in mathematics and science?

Funny proofs are often used in mathematics and science as a way to illustrate the importance of critical thinking and careful reasoning. They also serve as a reminder that even the most convincing arguments can be flawed, and it is crucial to thoroughly examine and question all evidence and ideas.

What makes a funny proof different from a legitimate proof?

The main difference between a funny proof and a legitimate proof is that a funny proof contains errors or fallacies, while a legitimate proof is logically valid and supported by evidence. A legitimate proof also follows established rules and principles, while a funny proof often breaks these rules in a clever or humorous way.

Can funny proofs be beneficial in the learning process?

Yes, funny proofs can be beneficial in the learning process as they can help students develop critical thinking skills and a deeper understanding of mathematical and logical concepts. They also provide a lighthearted and entertaining approach to learning, making it more enjoyable and engaging.

Are there any risks associated with using funny proofs?

While funny proofs can be a useful tool in learning, there is a risk that students may focus more on the humor and miss the underlying lesson. Teachers should make sure to clearly explain the flaws in the proof and emphasize the importance of understanding and verifying arguments. Additionally, care should be taken to avoid using offensive or discriminatory humor in the classroom.

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