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When calculating the Schwarzschild radius are we supposed to be using the rest mass of the object or its total energy?
dsaun777 said:When calculating the Schwarzschild radius are we supposed to be using the rest mass of the object or its total energy?
Nugatory said:They're the same thing, because we're assuming a spherically symmetrical and static distribution of mass/energy.
Roughly speaking, you use its rest mass = invariant mass. This includes all forms of energy, as measured in center of momentum frame. This is a simplification, since invariant mass is not really well defined in GR. But the gist is that moving rapidly past an object doesn’t somehow change its Schwarzschild radius.dsaun777 said:When calculating the Schwarzschild radius are we supposed to be using the rest mass of the object or its total energy?
This is true... but are we not effectively committing to using that frame when we assume a static and spherically symmetric distribution?PeterDonis said:In the object's rest frame, they are the same, but not in other frames.
In terms of the stress tensor what is rest mass?PAllen said:Roughly speaking, you use its rest mass = invariant mass. This includes all forms of energy, as measured it center of momentum frame. This is a simplification, since invariant mass is not really well defined in GR. But the gist is that moving rapidly past an object doesn’t somehow change its Schwarzschild radius.
Well, if you leave the realm in which SR concepts are a good approximation, it gets complicated. The stress energy tensor is a tensor field with values at points. You cannot talk about its value for a body of some size. If you can assume the body is stable, not currently collapsing, you would integrate the stress energy tensor using the Komar mass formula to get the Schwarzschild radius that would result if it collapsed in its entirety without radiating.dsaun777 said:In terms of the stress tensor what is rest mass?
Nugatory said:are we not effectively committing to using that frame when we assume a static and spherically symmetric distribution?
If you are calculating the rest mass for a stress tensor of a perfect fluid would you integrate over the volume?PAllen said:Well, if you leave the realm in which SR concepts are a good approximation, it gets complicated. The stress energy tensor is a tensor field with values at points. You cannot talk about its value for a body of some size. If you can assume the body is stable, not currently collapsing, you would integrate the stress energy tensor using the Komar mass formula to get the Schwarzschild radius that would result if it collapsed in its entirety without radiating.
Yes, but you would have to use the Komar integral. The stress energy tensor values reflect local measurements, but different parts of a body are at different gravitational potentials relative to each other. The Komar integral accounts for this. It also accounts for how to take pressure as well as energy density into account.dsaun777 said:If you are calculating the rest mass for a stress tensor of a perfect fluid would you integrate over the volume?
dsaun777 said:When calculating the Schwarzschild radius are we supposed to be using the rest mass of the object or its total energy?
dsaun777 said:When calculating the Schwarzschild radius are we supposed to be using the rest mass of the object or its total energy?
The Komar integral will get the total "rest" energy of a perfect fluid in a stationary symmetric spacetime by integrating over pressure and energy density? The integral is essentially over the trace of the stress tensor?PAllen said:Yes, but you would have to use the Komar integral. The stress energy tensor values reflect local measurements, but different parts of a body are at different gravitational potentials relative to each other. The Komar integral accounts for this. It also accounts for how to take pressure as well as energy density into account.
dsaun777 said:The Komar integral will get the total "rest" energy of a perfect fluid in a stationary symmetric spacetime by integrating over pressure and energy density? The integral is essentially over the trace of the stress tensor?
The Schwarzschild radius is a measure of the size of a black hole. It is the distance from the center of a black hole at which the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light, making it impossible for anything, including light, to escape.
The Schwarzschild radius is calculated using the formula Rs = 2GM/c^2, where G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the black hole, and c is the speed of light.
The Schwarzschild radius is directly proportional to the mass of the black hole. This means that as the mass of the black hole increases, its Schwarzschild radius also increases.
No, anything that crosses the Schwarzschild radius is considered to have entered the event horizon of the black hole and cannot escape, not even light.
The Schwarzschild radius is a result of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which includes the concept of mass-energy equivalence. This means that the mass of a black hole is equivalent to the energy required to create it, and the Schwarzschild radius represents the point at which this energy becomes strong enough to create a black hole.