Proving the Linearity of the Curl Operator in Electromagnetic Theory

In summary, the operator is linear if and only if the following condition is met: \vec F\cdot \vec G+b \vec H=0.
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Sheldon Cooper
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Hi,

I stumbled upon thinking that "Is curl operator a linear operator" ?
I was reading EM Theory and studied that the electromagnetic field satisfies the curl relations of E and B. But if the operator was not linear then how can a non linear operator give rise to a linear solution. Thus it becomes apparent that curl is linear but how can we prove it mathematically?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Use the definition ##\displaystyle (\vec \nabla \times \vec F)\cdot \hat n \equiv \lim_{A_n\to 0} \frac{1}{A_n} \oint_{\partial A_n} \vec F \cdot \vec{dr} ## (where ##A_n## is a surface with unit normal ##\hat n## and ##\partial A_n ## is its boundary curve.)!
 
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Does an operator have to be linear to generate a linear solution to an arbitrary equation, I did not know that??

A proof for the general case?
 
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houlahound said:
Does an operator have to be linear to generate a linear solution to an arbitrary equation??

A proof for the general case?

The phrase "linear solution" seems meaningless to me. Linearity is a property of an operator/equation.
 
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I can't get the question, linear has multiple meanings in math.
 
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houlahound said:
I can't get the question, linear has multiple meanings in math.
The OP has realized that Maxwell's equations are linear equations and so the curl operation is linear too. He just wants to prove that it actually is.
 
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houlahound said:
I can't get the question, linear has multiple meanings in math.
Which are? You can have linearity on the objects ##O## or in the arguments ##A##, but it's always the same condition:
 
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Linear can mean supper position, straight line, type of vector space , something raised to power one, a type of DE...
 
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houlahound said:
Linear can mean supper position, straight line, type of vector space , something raised to power one, a type of DE...
Which are all together just linear combinations of certain objects, or linear in the argument in case of scalar multiplication.
However, I have not the slightest idea what "type of vector space" means. Vector spaces are per definition a set of linear combinations.
There is no "multiple meaning" of linearity in math.
 
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Correction type of space eg vector space.

How is a linear equation eg y=2x+1the same as a linear first order DE or a linear operator?Linearity has context.
 
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houlahound said:
Correction type of space eg vector space.

How is a linear equation eg y=2x+1
This is no linear function. It's called an affine transformation. To call it "linear" isn't exact. ##y(0) ≠ 0##

the same as a linear first order DE or a linear operator?
It is linearity on the considered objects, here differential operators which are a special case of linear operators.

Linearity has context.
Wrong. The objects or arguments it applies to have a context, e.g. the derivatives in the example above.
Linearity itself is a property independent of what you regard in a special case, it simply says that you have a rule for addition and for scalar multiplication - whether it's applied to a superposition or an operator. The meaning of "linear" does not change.
 
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I learned something, thanks.
 
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Hey Shyan, tried your procedure to prove the linearity problem but and am stuck can u please add a few more steps(if possible).
 
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Sheldon Cooper said:
Hey Shyan, tried your procedure to prove the linearity problem but and am stuck can u please add a few more steps(if possible).
Just put ## \vec F=\vec G+b \vec H ## in the definition!
 
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ok got it thanks!
 

Related to Proving the Linearity of the Curl Operator in Electromagnetic Theory

1. What is the curl operator?

The curl operator is a mathematical operation that operates on a vector field in three-dimensional space. It measures the tendency of the vector field to rotate around a point.

2. How is the curl operator defined?

The curl operator is defined as the cross product of the gradient operator and the vector field. In mathematical notation, it is written as ∇ x F, where ∇ represents the gradient operator and F is the vector field.

3. What does it mean for a mathematical operation to be linear?

A mathematical operation is linear if it follows the properties of linearity, which are additivity and homogeneity. This means that when the operation is applied to a sum of two vectors, the result is the sum of the individual applications of the operation to each vector. Additionally, when the operation is applied to a vector multiplied by a scalar, the result is the scalar multiplied by the application of the operation to the original vector.

4. Is the curl operator linear?

No, the curl operator is not linear. This is because it does not follow the properties of linearity. When it is applied to a sum of two vectors, the result is not the sum of the individual applications of the operator to each vector. Similarly, when it is applied to a vector multiplied by a scalar, the result is not the scalar multiplied by the application of the operator to the original vector.

5. Why is it important to know if the curl operator is linear?

Understanding the linearity of the curl operator is important in many fields of science and engineering, particularly in physics and fluid mechanics. It allows us to accurately predict the behavior of vector fields in different situations and make calculations more efficiently.

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