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Noisy Rhysling
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We're done here.SlowThinker said:Can you provide your definition of creativity, art, and abstract thoughts?
BTW, if your definition contains the word "human" in it, I don't accept it.
We're done here.SlowThinker said:Can you provide your definition of creativity, art, and abstract thoughts?
BTW, if your definition contains the word "human" in it, I don't accept it.
Noisy Rhysling said:Sounds like that definition was developed to prove that point. It certainly doesn't match any definitions of "hivemind" I've seen before.
fanieh said:The way I understand mind is. There are two kinds of minds.
lower mind - composed of the subsconscious/unconscious processes and concrete logical thoughts and I think this is the highest any AI can reach
higher mind - composed of abstract thoughts, source of love, poetry, intuition, creativity
fanieh said:Well.. actually these are the core teaching of esoteric schools of all ages of all cultures. According to them, these are the teachings that came from other worlds in the ancient past.
fanieh said:If the universe has billions and billions of inhabited planet. Is it not impossible one that came to Earth and shared the teachings in the dawn of civilization.
fanieh said:According to the teachings. Man is part animal, part of something higher or part of a spectrum of higher consciousness (who knows.. it may be beyond quantum gravity physics... even Penrose kept saying this).
fanieh said:If all these are made into TV series or movies. Won't it become popular?
fanieh said:Perhaps the world is crazy about X-men, Avengers, etc. movies because we are catching subsconciously or acquiring a glimpse or shadows of the true situation?
fanieh said:Back to hard data. I thought they were trying to map the brain and simulate them with circuits. What progresses have been done along this line?
fanieh said:What would happen if our neurons were replaced with transistors? Can they write poetry?
And never the way I've seen it, anywhere. I've seen "hiveminds" before in fiction. The Samish from Jack Chalker's "Soul Rider" series comes to mind immediately for me.Drakkith said:Err, what? That's exactly the way I've always seen it used.
I've googled quite a bit but cannot find any information on this well-known character. Would you mind enlightening the illiterate?Noisy Rhysling said:And never the way I've seen it, anywhere. I've seen "hiveminds" before in fiction. The Samish from Jack Chalker's "Soul Rider" series comes to mind immediately for me.
Jack L. Chalker, the author, or "Samish", the aliens that wanted to incorporate humans into their hive?SlowThinker said:I've googled quite a bit but cannot find any information on this well-known character. Would you mind enlightening the illiterate?
We are discussing your definition of "hive mind".Noisy Rhysling said:Jack L. Chalker, the author, or "Samish", the aliens that wanted to incorporate humans into their hive?
Noisy Rhysling said:And never the way I've seen it, anywhere. I've seen "hiveminds" before in fiction. The Samish from Jack Chalker's "Soul Rider" series comes to mind immediately for me.
I'd send you my copies but I want to keep them. And why not defend your ... interesting ... interpretations of the term instead.SlowThinker said:We are discussing your definition of "hive mind".
The best I could find is a page about Soul Rider but no mention of Samish, or any hive mind at all.
I don't understand what is there to defend. In my view, it's obviously true that human societies exhibit behavior different from any of its members. If you feel this is not true, I'd love to be corrected.Noisy Rhysling said:I'd send you my copies but I want to keep them. And why not defend your ... interesting ... interpretations of the term instead.
When did I say that?SlowThinker said:I don't understand what is there to defend. In my view, it's obviously true that human societies exhibit behavior different from any of its members. If you feel this is not true, I'd love to be corrected.
You still fail to provide any definition of "hive mind", or point out any flaw in the definition Drakkith kindly found for me.Noisy Rhysling said:When did I say that?
When did I say he was wrong? Read my posts fully and carefully before replying.SlowThinker said:You still fail to provide any definition of "hive mind", or point out any flaw in the definition Drakkith kindly found for me.
I don't understand your reasoning. Everything is wrong according to you, but you give no reasons why.
Then what did this mean?Noisy Rhysling said:When did I say he was wrong? Read my posts fully and carefully before replying.
If you agree with the definition, I don't see why you even responded. You have a funny way of conducting conversations.Noisy Rhysling said:Sounds like that definition was developed to prove that point. It certainly doesn't match any definitions of "hivemind" I've seen before.
The point was I've never heard of that definition before. But heck, I'm only 66. Still time to learn new stuff.SlowThinker said:Then what did this mean?
If you agree with the definition, I don't see why you even responded. You have a funny way of conducting conversations.